Multiculturalism, Europe and Islam - what are the options now?

I read that as, 'a Registrar has to sodomise weddings in the UK', and thought that would be a bit of a bummer...
That was only civil partnerships, before last year.
 
As I believe it is in France.
It is
You are also required to do the civil part 1st - although they tend not to be to fussed on that if its the same day.

Up until certain events in Paris the French state de facto allowed people from a particular demographic to just do the religious ceremony and therefore claim benefits/ tax allowances for wife and kids etc.
After said incident several individuals were fecked off at the high port when trying to make claims as they weren't legally married and the law was now going to be applied.

Working to rule still one of the best ways to screw / stitch anyone or thing up
 
It is
You are also required to do the civil part 1st - although they tend not to be to fussed on that if its the same day.

Up until certain events in Paris the French state de facto allowed people from a particular demographic to just do the religious ceremony and therefore claim benefits/ tax allowances for wife and kids etc.
After said incident several individuals were fecked off at the high port when trying to make claims as they weren't legally married and the law was now going to be applied.

Working to rule still one of the best ways to screw / stitch anyone or thing up
It's a shame we have to learn things the hard way.

That's 'tolerance' for ya.
 
isn’t it the case that a Registrar has to solemnise weddings in UK regardless of what religious ceremony is taking place.
I thought so too. If one decides that you're not going to have a registrar involved then it's not legal no matter who your sky pilot is.
 
I thought so too. If one decides that you're not going to have a registrar involved then it's not legal no matter who your sky pilot is.
Exactly. In England most vicars are authorised persons to sign the register, if not then you need to get one of the local authority registrars to come and do the necessary. Alternatively you could get a wedding celebrant to do the wedding and go to the registry office afterwards to officially sign the register (cost about £50).
 

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Actually mass repatriation is perfectly possible. More than 200,000 Japanese troops and civilians were repatriated from Malaya at the end of the last war, and the Germans and Russians shifted whole populations.
 
The problem with allowing Islamic marriages is that it could end up clashing with the rules against polygamy.

Also, listen to this podcast, it's really good:

 
SAS airlines just released its Gillette moment, a racist commercial stating that there is no Scandinavian culture and with a black African saying " our Viking heritage" .

Its gone down like a lead balloon.

 
SAS airlines just released its Gillette moment, a racist commercial stating that there is no Scandinavian culture and with a black African saying " our Viking heritage" .

Its gone down like a lead balloon.

GERMAN BICYCLE! :mad: The bicycle wasn't invented in Germany. French Hobby Horse concept was adapted by an Ayrshire blacksmith. It's British! Other than that the advert may have a point, going by this article in the Helsinki Times, five years ago.

Northern overexposure: Scandinavia is no utopia
Helsinki Times

Two years later in 2017, from Fraser Nelson in The Telegraph (paywall):
They won't admit it in Stockholm, but Donald Trump is right about immigration in Sweden They won't admit it in Stockholm, but Donald Trump is right about immigration in Sweden

Hundred explosions in Sweden: What's going on?
 
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Scandanavian culture is about over-priced piss-water sold as beer. I notice they had nobody else in the world to blame that upon.
 
Good for a laugh! I'm sure Erdogan is an avid reader of his op eds.

'The power vacuum in the global system is plunging the world into chaos. So how will this vacuum be filled? Although we are on the verge of scary developments, this uncertainty also translates into new opportunities for fringe countries of the global system. Is the Turkic and Islamic world ready to take advantage of these historical opportunities? Despite all its weaknesses, the Muslim world must recognize the values it could bring forth as the sole source of humanity and peace.'

 
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Published by Katie Harris, The TELEGRAPH, on Saturday 16 February, 2019.

RSPCA calls for BAN on non-stun slaughter - ‘It causes UNNECESSARY SUFFERING’.

THE RSPCA is calling for a ban on non-stun slaughter to prevent “unnecessary suffering” for millions of animals.

The animal charity has teamed up with the British Veterinary Association (BVA) to campaign for a change in the law, which currently allows slaughter without pre-stunning for religious purposes. All kosher slaughter for Jews and some halal slaughter for Muslims involves cutting the animal’s throat while they are conscious and able to feel pain. The RSPCA and the BVA are demanding the Government outlaws the practice due to animal welfare fears.

And they are urging for other steps to be taken including labelling meat with the slaughter method so customers are clear about what they are buying.

RSPCA chief executive Chris Sherwood said: “We’re opposed to non-stun slaughter and we’re calling for an end to the practice as it seriously compromises animal welfare.

“Our concern does not relate to the expression of religious belief but the welfare of animals".

“Our concern does not relate to the expression of religious belief but the welfare of animals.

“Until there is a change in the law to end non-stun slaughter, there are several measures the UK Government could introduce to reduce the suffering involved in this practice.

“For example, by ensuring trade deals with other countries do not include non-stun meat or live animals for non-stun slaughter, clear labelling should be adopted to enable consumers to make an informed choice about the meat they buy and how it was slaughtered.”

Dr Marc Cooper of the RSPCA said: “The RSPCA is against any slaughter of farm animals without stunning as the scientific evidence, and the view from the UK Government’s own advisors, concludes this practice can cause unnecessary suffering.”

And BVA president Simon Doherty added there is “huge” public support for a change in the law.

It comes after the Flanders region of Belgium followed the lead of other European countries including Iceland, Sweden, Switzerland and Denmark by introducing a ban on slaughter without pre-stunning earlier this year.

Mr Doherty said: “The UK Government has repeatedly stated it would prefer to see all animals stunned before slaughter but has taken no action to address this critical welfare issue that affects millions of animals every year.

“There is a huge groundswell of support for a ban on non-stun slaughter, and recent developments in Belgium show that decisive change is possible where public support is matched by political will.”

New figures released by the Food Standards Agency (FSA) revealed that more than 94 million animals were slaughtered without stunning in 2018.

A Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs spokesman said: “We would prefer that all animals are stunned before slaughter, but we accept the rights of people who are Jewish or Muslim to eat meat prepared in accordance with their religious beliefs.

“We do, however, expect industry to provide consumers with the information they need to make informed choices.

“This is an issue the Government is considering closely in the context of the UK’s exit from the EU.

“We will continue work with stakeholders on issues such as labelling, slaughter practices and transparency of demand for non-stunned meat.”
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Sign the RSPCA and the BVA’s joint letter to environment secretary Michael Gove calling for an end to non-stun slaughter . . . . End non-stun slaughter in England | RSPCA.


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Published by Katie Harris, The TELEGRAPH, on Saturday 16 February, 2019.

RSPCA calls for BAN on non-stun slaughter - ‘It causes UNNECESSARY SUFFERING’.
I'm suffering deja vu, at least 3 4 threads I've seen this on now.
 
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