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Multi-Role Support Ship (MRSS)

Given uncertainty regarding RM numbers and the RN's amphibious capabilities, this Jane's article provides an interesting insight into potential replacements for our LPDs, forward repair and medical vessels.

A single, multi-role platform appears to make operational and commercial sense to this crustacean. The biggest challenge may well be managing the spending profile over the next 10 years given Dreadnought SSBN, T26/T31, QE/F-35, Sea Class, personnel and other funding priorities. However, as the concept study is not even planned to report until 2018, hopefully this can be managed.

I have to say that I'm a tad surprised to see Albion and Bulwark planned to be out of service in 2030; it only seems like yesterday since they were commissioned and one's been in 'extended readiness' for some years.


After T26/31, MRSS will presumably be of significant interest to UK shipbuilding. However, after the award of Tide Class MARS RFA contract to Korean manufacturers, it could end up being a bit of a political football.

Regards,
MM
 
Linky?
 
Seen.

and it looks like someone in MarCap has been having a wet in London.

Given that Continuous Amphibious Readiness doesn't talk about LPD replacement, and the way the Corps is moving, I can see this become more of an Admin Off-Load type of ship rather than a Warship. As for the other bits, I know there is genuine angst about Medical Capability at sea (and how we provide it).

It might be worth going "off the shelf" and/or converting a MV design for these things. I think we should probably try and get them built somewhere other than the UK, although I'm not sure the Koreans are up for bidding again...
 
Are they loggie ships as well? Will the RLC get one?
 

ugly

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Wasn't that long ago (ok it was) that the RE had a fleet of gray boats.
 

Himmler74

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Seen.

and it looks like someone in MarCap has been having a wet in London.

Given that Continuous Amphibious Readiness doesn't talk about LPD replacement, and the way the Corps is moving, I can see this become more of an Admin Off-Load type of ship rather than a Warship. As for the other bits, I know there is genuine angst about Medical Capability at sea (and how we provide it).

It might be worth going "off the shelf" and/or converting a MV design for these things. I think we should probably try and get them built somewhere other than the UK, although I'm not sure the Koreans are up for bidding again...


Some intresting thoughts in the thread which this link takes you to,

UK Defence Forum - Login

Some need a kilo or two salt, but it is worth a read.
 
is it worth registering for...?
 

Yokel

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1. Medical = Role 3 afloat?

2. Has the land centric nature of sandy adventures skewed thinking in MOD/Government?

3. Before SDSR 15 every thought the RN would get a manpower uplift of 1500 or more people. What happened to stop it?
 

Himmler74

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is it worth registering for...?

The site has some decent threads, non of the “internet hardmen - comedians” one troll of note Ron5.

It has a decent section on equipment and future. It also has a few equipment fantasists, some SME on the engineering sode of things. It was set up when military photos swithed over to the mess, Pretty nuch a UK orientated version of that.

Downsizer posts there.
 

Himmler74

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Would buying a couple of mistrals not be a option?
 
...Before SDSR 15 every thought the RN would get a manpower uplift of 1500 or more people. What happened to stop it?

Same as happened to the planned RAF manpower uplift: the PM 'misspoke' and stated publicly that he would not be cutting 'troop' numbers.

After months of acceptance that Army liability would be transferred to the RN and RAF to facilitate new equipment, this was seized on by CGS and cap-badge lobbyists to press that the Army was safe from further 'damaging cuts when it was already at its smallest since Waterloo'. The result was that the RN and RAF got the equipment but not the liability.

...the brilliant blog "Think Defence"...

'Brilliant'...Mmm!

Would buying a couple of mistrals not be a option?

I very much doubt it for a number of requirement, budgetary and political reasons.

Regards,
MM
 
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Yokel

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Same as happened to the planned RAF manpower uplift: the PM 'misspoke' and stated publicly that he would not be cutting 'troop' numbers.

After months of acceptance that Army liability would be transferred to the RN and RAF to facilitate new equipment, this was seized on by CGS and cap-badge lobbyists to press that the Army was safe from further 'damaging cuts when it was already at its smallest since Waterloo'. The result was that the RN and RAF got the equipment but not the liability.

Regards,
MM

I know - I ask rhetorical questions so you don't have to!
 

Yokel

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Any chance of more RN/RAF manpower any time soon? The world changed with the BREXIT vote and change of PM, and things are only going to get gritter....
 

Himmler74

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I very much doubt it.

Regards,
MM

More and more are getting enticed back on FTRS, which is not a bad gig for a couple of years, some of the old kipper fleet may fancy it.
 

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