Mugabes daughter studying in the UK

#1
You couldn't make it up! What's the point of a travel ban if it doesn't apply to the families as well?

http://www.iaindale.blogspot.com/

Is the British Taxpayer Paying for Mugabe's Daughter

Conservative MP James Duddridge has discovered that Robert Mugabe's daughter Bona is studying at the LSE. He asked Ian McCartney about it in the House of Commons earlier having alerted him to the issue this morning. Bearing in mind McCartney had several hours to look into the issue, his responses were less than illuminating. When asked if the British taxpayer was paying any of the cost of her education he said "I don't know". James Duddridge has now written to McCartney asking five key questions...

1) Who authorised Bona Mugabe’s visa?
2) Who pays Bona’s tuition fees?
3) What liaison has there been with the UK authorities in relation to Bona’s personal safety and protection?
4) Has any taxpayers’ money been spent?
5) What consideration has the Government given to extending the travel ban to include all members of Robert Mugabe’s family?

We look forward to some quick answers.
 
#3
As a foreign student it is likely (though not totally set) that not only is she paying tution fees, but they are also overseas fees - about £8000 a year. Which is why universities are keen on overseas students
 
#4
I don't see why a tyrant's daughter should be personally victimised. "Sins of the father . . ." and so on. Not her fault (she wasn't born until long after Zimbabwe was established), and LSE may well be doing her good.

But I think the question of possible taxpayers' money going on her protection probably ought to answered.
 
#5
crabby said:
As a foreign student it is likely (though not totally set) that not only is she paying tution fees, but they are also overseas fees - about £8000 a year. Which is why universities are keen on overseas students
Indeed.

Interesting that she's studying at the LSE. I wonder how the conversation pans out around the family dinner table when she mentions what she's learned about how to run a successful economy.
 
#6
I also wonder what Mugabe Jr. had to say about this article from the LSE SU magazine...

http://thebeaveronline.co.uk/Features/the-state-of-africa

THE STATE OF AFRICA

Features examines life on the continent in 2007

Overturning the bread-basket
Rosamund Urwin looks at the urban crisis in Zimbabwe

There may be many reasons for optimism on the African continent, but Zimbabwe does not present us with many: the country suffers from the world’s highest inflation rate, unemployment is estimated at 80%, and tourism, formerly a major industry, is now almost nonexistent. In their criticisms of the Zimbabwean government, the international press have focused mainly on the slump in agricultural production, a result of the Zanu PF Party’s questionable land reforms and the seizure of white-owned farmland by the pro-Mugabe War Veterans Association. Perhaps this focus is unsurprising when the country once known as the “bread basket” of Africa now cannot feed its own population. Yet this emphasis has sidelined the problems in the towns which are worsening, with widespread fears that another round of Mugabe’s controversial slum clearances are on the horizon.

The first round of Operation Murambatsvina (“Drive out the trash”) affected most of the major Zimbabwean cities and left around 65,000 families displaced. Whilst Zimbabwe is not unique in carrying out slum levelling, other countries have planned the operation far better with pre-prepared new areas of settlement. In contrast, the groundwork for the Zimbabwean operation was minimal and little effort has since been made to rehouse those left homeless. According to a Zimbabwean government, this policy went hand-in-hand with land reclamation, but while the former slum-dwellers were sent back to rural areas, they did not receive any repossessed land. Many experienced enormous difficulties in being accepted into rural society, thus the families drifted back to the towns, some even re-building their destroyed structures. This leaves them enormously vulnerable to further government action against them.

Cont/...
 
#7
I assume the gutter press know about this, if not, WHY NOT !!!

let them do the bleating and ask the awkward questions up the chain of contempt ... ooops I meant .........I WAS right, yes, I meant contempt
 
#8
crabby said:
As a foreign student it is likely (though not totally set) that not only is she paying tution fees, but they are also overseas fees - about £8000 a year. Which is why universities are keen on overseas students
At least we get some of our overseas aid money back then :threaten:
 
#9
I don't see why a tyrant's daughter should be personally victimised. "Sins of the father . . ." and so on. Not her fault (she wasn't born until long after Zimbabwe was established), and LSE may well be doing her good.
Maybe I'm not as enlightened a being as you, but I certainly don't take that view.

She is the spawn of one of the worst tyrants to have graced a blood-soaked continent, and the message needs to be put forward that those associated with these murderous country-wreckers will not be tolerated in the West. Kick the little biatch out, keep what fees she's paid, and ban the rest of them from ever setting foot.
 
#10
you can't blame her for what her father has done
 
#14
commander-adama said:
I've seen on teletext that the minister who made the statement about Mugabes daughter at the LSE has admitted that he was talking balls and she isn't!!
How strange...

Under questioning from Tory MPs in the Commons, Mr McCartney [Foreign Office minister] confirmed that Bona Mugabe was a student at the LSE, but said he was not sure who was funding her course.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#15
Wouldn't suprise me it's nothing new

A cousin of Saddam Hussein, who says two of the former leader's daughters want to apply for asylum in Britain, returned yesterday from a visit to Iraq.

Izzi-Din Mohammed Hassan al-Majid, who was granted indefinite leave to remain in Britain in October 2000
, has said he will try to help Saddam's daughters - Raghad and Rana - win refugee status in Britain.

Mr Al-Majid, who fled Iraq in 1995 and returned in April after US-led forces deposed Saddam, arrived in Britain on a flight from Amsterdam.

He lives in Leeds, in northern England.

"I have seen the poor conditions in which these two ladies live," he was quoted as telling The Sun newspaper.

He has said they are living with their nine children in a home in Baghdad without electric power.

"I believe the UK government will take them in because they (the government) have always been known to protect people and give them asylum," he said.

The Sun quoted him as saying that Saddam's daughters wished to live in Leeds and send their children to British schools.

The Home Office - which confirmed that he is a cousin of Saddam Hussein - said there was no evidence to suggest the former leader's daughters would seek asylum in Britain.

"We will not consider asylum claims from any member of Saddam Hussein's family who may be involved in human rights abuses," the Home Office added.

The Daily Mail newspaper reported that Saddam's first wife, Sajida Khairallah Telfah, also wishes to claim asylum in Britain.

Citing an unidentified source close to Saddam's family, the paper said Sajida and her daughters considered Britain safer than several Arab countries because these might harbour anti-Saddam factions.

Sajida's sons, Uday and Qusay, were prominent in their father's government.

Saddam's second wife, Samira al-Shabandar, was mother to Saddam's other son, Ali Saddam Hussein. But that son did not assume any official post.

Also
We do not want to apply for asylum as that would not be appropriate for us," Raghad told the Sunday Telegraph.

"But we would like to visit Britain and possibly live there if we were granted visas."

But Home Office Minister Beverley Hughes said that while the government would oppose an application to travel to the UK, it would be "duty bound" to consider the women's case if they made their own way to the country

We did it even further back

Scotland Yard has relaunched its search for war criminals almost seven years after its specialist Nazi-hunting unit was disbanded, the Guardian has learned. An eight-strong team from the anti-terrorist branch has been examining the backgrounds of British residents suspected of committing atrocities during the second world war.
The team is focusing on former members of a division of the Waffen SS which was recruited by the Nazis in the Ukraine and brought to Britain en masse to provide farm labour after the war. Home Office officials believe several hundred former members of the unit may still be living in the UK. The Guardian has identified and located more than a dozen survivors of the Galizien division. Most still live in small clusters in the East Midlands, Yorkshire and East Anglia, a short distance from the PoW camps where they arrived almost six decades ago.

The new inquiry has been shrouded in secrecy since it was quietly resumed last year, and the Yard has even attempted to deny that it is under way again. Two senior officers have been assigned to lead the team of two detective sergeants, two detective constables and two civilian researchers. A Yard spokesman confirmed that they are scouring old war crimes files and "liaising with other government departments, including the Immigration and Nationality Directorate, to establish the best way forward".
It is unclear whether statements have been taken from the former members of the unit, the 14th Waffen SS Galizien division. Scotland Yard is also declining to say whether any witnesses have been located in Poland, Slovakia or the Ukraine, the countries where the Galizien division operated, and where some members stand accused of participating in the massacre of Jewish and non-Jewish civilians.

Police are understood to be attempting to identify members of the Galizien division who attended a training centre for concentration camp guards as well as examining the war records of other surviving members. With the youngest former members of the unit now in their 80s, however, and with the memories of surviving witnesses fading fast, the chances of any successful prosecutions appear slim. The decision to relaunch the hunt is thought to reflect a renewed appetite for war crimes investigations at the Home Office, and comes after continuing calls for action from a number of backbench MPs.

Investigation

However, it is unclear how much enthusiasm there is at Scotland Yard for an investigation that could divert detectives from anti-terrorist duties at a time of mounting security concerns.

The Yard's specialist war crimes unit was disbanded in May 1999 after investigations costing an estimated £6.5m resulted in just one conviction. Anthony Sawoniuk, a retired railway ticket inspector from south London, was jailed for life earlier that year after being convicted of two specimen charges concerning the murder of 18 Jews. He died in Norwich prison last November, aged 84.

Andrew Dismore, Labour MP for Hendon, who has been pressing for action against surviving war criminals, said the Yard deserves extra funding for the inquiry. "Making sure old war criminals can never sleep easy in their beds sends an important message to the would-be war criminals of tomorrow," he said.

Trial

But Professor David Cesarani, who was the principal researcher for the group of MPs which campaigned successfully for the introduction of the War Crimes Act 15 years ago, believes that men who could have been prosecuted at that time are now highly unlikely to face trial. "This has come 10 years too late," he said. "The Home Office should be asking whether this is going to do more harm than good, and whether embarking on a judicial process, which will take years to come to fruition, is the best way to proceed. Regretfully, it may be that an inquiry by government historians will now be the best way to investigate what these people did, how they came to be here and why they have not been prosecuted before."

Hitler's Ukrainian SS division was created from the merger of many different units, including the Nightingale battalion, said to have participated in the massacre of thousands of Jews in Lvov, Ukraine, and the Ukrainian Self Defence Legion, accused of murdering villagers in eastern Poland. Some Galizien troops are said to have played a part in the bloody suppression of the 1944 Warsaw uprising, while others are alleged to have murdered a number of British and American airmen who were being sheltered by partisans in Slovakia. Its soldiers were Ukrainian nationalists, who later insisted that they had no love for Germany or the Nazis, but joined the German army to take up arms against the Russians, and against communism. Those who survive in Britain today deny any involvement in war crimes.

Few people noticed when they arrived in Britain in May 1947: one Labour MP, Barnett Janner, complained bitterly in the Commons that members of the Galizien division "murdered hundreds of people in cold blood", while a solitary letter in the London Evening News, signed with the correspondent's concentration camp number, 3399, complained that he or she had witnessed first-hand the "brutal, uncouth and bloodthirsty" behaviour of Ukrainian guards. Most newspapers devoted just one paragraph to reporting the division's arrival, however. The men were dispersed among PoW camps. Over the next three years just eight "undesirables" were deported to Germany, while some emigrated to Canada, the US or Argentina.

Parachuted

A handful are now known to have been recruited by MI6 and parachuted back into the Ukraine, where they were betrayed by the double agent Kim Philby. Most remained in the UK, however, and were granted civilian status. Many married, started families and, by the 1990s, those who survived were British subjects.

Among the survivors of the Galizien division identified by the Guardian is Mykola Lehkyj, 84, who says he volunteered to fight for the Germans after they overran his home town of Rohatyn, in western Ukraine, in 1941. Although both his brothers served in the Red Army, Mr Lehkyj, then aged 19, volunteered to join the Ukrainian unit that the invaders were raising. "We hated the Germans, but we wanted to fight the Russians more than anything," he said. "The Germans allowed us to make a Ukrainian army in German uniforms. Our aim was to join this Ukrainian army and create a Ukrainian nation."

After training in Germany, he fought with the rest of the Galizien division at Brody, where it suffered heavy losses. "We couldn't hold them. But fighting against the Russians was a pleasure, to be honest with you, because I was fighting on my own land."

Mr Lehkyj was then sent to Slovakia, where he fought partisans, and ended the war as a corporal. He remains proud of his service - "I have nothing to hide" - but denies that he took part in, or witnessed, any war crimes. "The Russians tried to blame us for everything. They say we killed children and women - it isn't true."

After being shipped to Scotland he was sent to a prison camp near Braintree, Essex, to work on farms, and has remained in the region ever since. Today he lives in Ipswich with Helen, the Englishwoman he married in 1953. They have four children, one of whom served in the RAF, and six grandchildren.

"I love this country," he said. "It gave me life. I call it Merry England: this is a country that will help any bugger."

Backstory

Labour shortages in post-war Britain were so severe that few questions were asked when Hitler's Ukrainian soldiers were shipped here. With large sections of the British population still in the armed forces, most farms depended on German prisoners of war, despite forced labour being prohibited by the Geneva convention

The 8,528 officers and men of the 14th Waffen SS Galizien division had been languishing for two years at a prisoner of war camp near Rimini, on Italy's Adriatic coast.

Attempts to identify war criminals among them were promised by the Foreign Office, but they had had so much time to prepare cover stories that Fitzroy Maclean, a war hero and Tory MP who had been handed the task, complained that it was hopeless. He warned Whitehall: "We only have their own word for it that they have not committed atrocities or war crimes."

All concerns about the unit's war record were brushed aside during a series of cabinet meetings in March 1947. Foreign Office minister Hector McNeil reported that "United States opinion was sensitive" about continuing use of Germans as farm labourers.

Mr McNeil conjured up a deft solution: to meet the demand for labour by using displaced Ukrainians in place of the German prisoners. When Home Office officials complained that immigration rules were being waived to bring suspected war criminals into the country, they were told that the prime minister, Clement Attlee, had "decreed" that it must happen.

The more you look in to these things the less you are shocked
Always seems to a Labour Goverment though

Too soft
 
#17
Has Mugabe's daughter got a big place in London? Would be a shame if some war veterans occupied it.
 
#18
whitecity said:
commander-adama said:
I've seen on teletext that the minister who made the statement about Mugabes daughter at the LSE has admitted that he was talking balls and she isn't!!
How strange...

Under questioning from Tory MPs in the Commons, Mr McCartney [Foreign Office minister] confirmed that Bona Mugabe was a student at the LSE, but said he was not sure who was funding her course.
Page 310 on teletext says that Mc Cartney has admitted he was wrong and the LSE have denied that she is there.
 
#19
commander-adama said:
whitecity said:
commander-adama said:
I've seen on teletext that the minister who made the statement about Mugabes daughter at the LSE has admitted that he was talking balls and she isn't!!
How strange...

Under questioning from Tory MPs in the Commons, Mr McCartney [Foreign Office minister] confirmed that Bona Mugabe was a student at the LSE, but said he was not sure who was funding her course.
Page 310 on teletext says that Mc Cartney has admitted he was wrong and the LSE have denied that she is there.
Correct. Mugabe is claiming it's a British smear, and deliberate misinformation.

Have a look at : http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/chatunga5.16183.html
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
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