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What a badly researched and opinionated non story.

Typical of the outrageously poor press standards in this country.

MTP PCS - More comfortable than CS95 - Fact
MTP PCS - Could have done with better quality control - Fact
MTP PCS - The most effective camouflage pattern ever adopted by the Forces - Fact

Daily Mail, feel free to quote this.
 
#3
I remember the combat kit we had in the '70's, cuffs up by yer elbows, arrse hanging down by yer knees. Appalling it was. I've seen better cut clothes at an African humanitarian aid convention.
 
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The MTP PCS looks a load of toss, its hard to get a decent set that fits, however it will look even worse if you tuck it in and roll up the sleeves. I wish we were allowed to wear MTP CS95.
 
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The MTP PCS looks a load of toss, its hard to get a decent set that fits, however it will look even worse if you tuck it in and roll up the sleeves. I wish we were allowed to wear MTP CS95.
Bollocks. From what I've seen thousands of troops have been issued a decent fitting set. What fuckin' shape are you that you can't fit into MTP?
 
#11
Bollocks. From what I've seen thousands of troops have been issued a decent fitting set. What fuckin' shape are you that you can't fit into MTP?
Have to say I agree with tally. The sizing is definitely off. I ordered the same size I had in cs95 and the waist is tighter (no, I haven't been at the pies) and the sleeves and jacket length is far too long.

Quality control is also piss poor. The warm climate ripstop isn't bad but the standard issue is crap. I've just come back in off a FIBUA ex and about 90% of the blokes have ripped trousers etc. 95 was a lot more sturdy.

Other stuff:
Cam pattern - great
Ridged Velcro patches everywhere - shite.
New smock design - amazing.
MTP baseball cap - wear it at your peril.
 

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#12
What a badly researched and opinionated non story.

Typical of the outrageously poor press standards in this country.

MTP PCS - More comfortable than CS95 - Opinion
MTP PCS - Could have done with better quality control - Fact
MTP PCS - The most effective camouflage pattern ever adopted by the Forces - Fact

Daily Mail, feel free to quote this.
Fixed it for you. I find it less comfortable, particularly now that its 28 degrees outside and I have to wear both a t-shirt and a jacket when I used to be able to wear a shirt with the sleeves rolled up. I have taken to wearing barrack dress to stay cool, which says a lot about the 'comfortable' uniform.
 
#13
Its just been highlighted due to the hot weather lately and the medal parades etc.We wear what we are issued and ordered to wear. It will take a while to get used to a completely new set/type of uniform thats all granted. However it does look like a bag of crap , and would look even worse tucked in and rolled up .
 
#15
Fixed it for you. I find it less comfortable, particularly now that its 28 degrees outside and I have to wear both a t-shirt and a jacket when I used to be able to wear a shirt with the sleeves rolled up. I have taken to wearing barrack dress to stay cool, which says a lot about the 'comfortable' uniform.
Fair point, luckily I have been issued the temperate and hot weather versions, I wear the hot weather version all the time, I find it more comfortable.

The design brief (I assume) would have been limited to -

PCS CU To be worn on operations or exercise in conjunction with OSPREY.
Barrack dress to be worn for normal daily duties.

It is a bit rubbish that the Project Team didn't foresee the situation where everyone will wear PCS CU as working dress for normal daily duties.

Again I assume that changing the brief on PCS CU would have derailed the funding/progress so far/senior officers pet project of Future Army Dress (whoever allowed that name really needs a slap)

The development of FAD Barrack Dress is where the Army got it catastrophically wrong, bin barrack dress and reintroduce the CS95 shirt in MTP for barracks use.
 
#16
I take it that MPT c95 are the new " jungles ". The short of it is its the ARMY you wear a UNIFORM being told what to wear is part of the job. If you don't like that then why did you join ? Or you could sign off and wear what you like in the dole queue.
 
#17
As a complete newbie to the army and having just earned my stable belt;I am still in dpm cs95, and I enjoy the fact that it is smarter than the new mtp pcs, however I have been told the new stuff is better designed for the field.At the end of the day, fresh out of basic training I am still of the opinion that I am issued kit to wear, not to model.
 
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Now Army chiefs have promised to review the guidelines, a move which will cost thousands of pounds at a time of deep cuts.

How the **** will it cost "thousands of pounds" for someone to sit down and apply a bit of common sense?

My idea would be for CS95 in MTP for in camp and the new stuff for the field.
 
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As a complete newbie to the army and having just earned my stable belt;I am still in dpm cs95, and I enjoy the fact that it is smarter than the new mtp pcs, however I have been told the new stuff is better designed for the field.At the end of the day, fresh out of basic training I am still of the opinion that I am issued kit to wear, not to model.
People forget that CS95 was also designed for the field, it's just that morons decided to **** it up by sticking stupid badges and colored belts all over it.
 
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People forget that CS95 was also designed for the field, it's just that morons decided to **** it up by sticking stupid badges and colored belts all over it.

My Regiment wore CS95 shirts untucked for the first 18 months of having it (95-96) it was very comfortable and a revelation after 85 Pattern and 90 Pattern kit.


PCS CU down and out is better.
 
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