MTDs - the explanation

#1
Extract from TAQ 6:

'Many of you will have been affected by the double round of cost
savings that have been applied to the TA. First, our budget for the
current year was cut by £7 million in May, and this was followed by a
further cut of £16 million in June.

I would not insult you by passing this off with some glib ‘line to take’
or piece of spin, and I certainly do not underestimate the impact that
these cuts have had on many of you. I know that in some cases, units
have had their training nights reduced to one per month and their
training weekends reduced by half.

The fact is that a protracted operation such as HERRICK is monetarily
very expensive. Also, we are all aware of the greater cost in life and
limb that many of our colleagues have paid, and continue to pay, and
we have to concentrate all our resources on training and equipping
our deploying troops in order to minimise that cost. The Treasury is
putting pressure on every Government department to cut costs and
save money, so we are certainly not alone.

I wish I could say with certainty that there will not be any further cuts
this year. What I can say with absolute certainty is that the cost savings
are not a measure of the value placed on the TA; everyone, from the
Prime Minister down, recognises the irreplaceable contribution that
the TA continues to make.

It’s a tradition in the British Army – probably one of the factors that
makes us the best in the world – that whatever is thrown at us, we
hunker-down and crack on. That’s what we will do now in the face of
these spending cuts. They may make life difficult in the short term, but
we will come through
.'

http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/TAQ_Volume__6.pdf
 
#2
So the short and curlies is a diversion of 23 million pounds to where it is needed most then.
 
#4
tiger stacker said:
So the short and curlies is a diversion of 23 million pounds to where it is needed most then.
Sounds like the same tactic I would use on my wife to get my leg over. Guilt tripping us into not moaning about it. Will we see a return of MTD's after the op's have finished or will we make such a good job of working with less that we shot ourselves in the foot. We can be our worst enemies at times like this.
 
#5
To be honest, I had no idea how much HAD been cut - not sure it was wise to tell us!!
 
#6
saladdoger said:
tiger stacker said:
So the short and curlies is a diversion of 23 million pounds to where it is needed most then.
Sounds like the same tactic I would use on my wife to get my leg over. Guilt tripping us into not moaning about it. Will we see a return of MTD's after the op's have finished or will we make such a good job of working with less that we shot ourselves in the foot. We can be our worst enemies at times like this.
While Op Telic was the main concern and Afghan was just about to explode, the money was there, albeit not that it was pointed out it could be used more expediently.

The Royal Navy and the Junior Service did hand over a fair proportion of their budget to the army to help them out.

Thanks for highlighting the official line Mr Tracy.
 
#7
Budget cuts are one thing and can be handled, as many of us are doing so, not that we have much choice. However the mechanism, or lack of, that the CoC used to implement the cuts is the tool which is flawed. As Wingletang has mentioned in another thread, if units had been given reasonable notice to reduce MTDs and indirectly training, then the whole business would have been so much easier, and importantly wouldn't have made the TA feel quite so undervalued and second rate. Hats off to the muppets who have no idea of the concept of the estimate and order process :x
 
#8
I'm not entirely sure how much of the total budget the cuts represent but by any margin, they are sigificant. I do also wonder what is next - more cuts?

...do I feel valued?
 
#9
I suppose that's the trouble with modern warfare - you can't use plunder to recoup the costs of mounting the operation...
 

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#10
putteesinmyhands said:
I suppose that's the trouble with modern warfare - you can't use plunder to recoup the costs of mounting the operation...
Sadly, as we only seem to invade benighted holes recently, the opportunities for this are very limited - unless we start selling on the enormous quantities of narcotics that the Army find in Afghanistan, and the RN in the Caribbean :)
 
#12
OldSnowy said:
putteesinmyhands said:
I suppose that's the trouble with modern warfare - you can't use plunder to recoup the costs of mounting the operation...
Sadly, as we only seem to invade benighted holes recently, the opportunities for this are very limited - unless we start selling on the enormous quantities of narcotics that the Army find in Afghanistan, and the RN in the Caribbean :)
Friend of mine works in the Drug Companies trade (legit type that is) and about 2 years ago there was s serious shortage of quality source materials for all morphine based pain killers.

About 8,000 arces of land is used in the UK to grow Opium poppies now

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ing-in-the-uk-is-now-all-the-rage-1748102.htm

However. Cos HM Regime had it's head so firmly up Uncle Bush's arse a chance to break the link between Taliban and opium cash crops was lost, along with the chance to make some money and force the taliban out to fight.
 
#13
Kitmarlowe said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/house-and-home/gardening/fields-of-joy-thanks-to-a-morphine-shortage-poppy-growing-in-the-uk-is-now-all-the-rage-1748102.htm
Link doesn't work. Don't know why, as it's the right page.

Go to http://www.independent.co.uk and "Advanced Search" the term "poppy" in "Life & Style" with the date range 1 Jan 2007 to 31 Dec 2007.
 

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#15
My Dear! If you only knew some of the places I've been, the dumps I've seen, over the last few years - makes you wish for the chance to see attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion, and C-beams glittering in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate or some such nonsense.

It would certainly be nice if we did invade somewhere decent. The Army in days gone by knew this - they went for the Summer Palace in Peking, Napoleon's Coach c/w gold khazi, the Koh-i-Noor Diamond, that sort of thing.
 
#16
It's worrying when the top brass are actually aware of what is happening....how we's gonna get out of this then?

'I know that in some cases, units have had their training nights reduced to one per month and their training weekends reduced by half.'
 
#17
MrTracey said:
It's worrying when the top brass are actually aware of what is happening....how we's gonna get out of this then?

'I know that in some cases, units have had their training nights reduced to one per month and their training weekends reduced by half.'
And some units are on C1 for all there drill nights.
 
#18
I happened to be checking over bounty progress within my Sqn last weekend, on looking closely at "Bounty Hunters" I found that with the restriction in MTDs a large proportion of fringe attendees will now find it very difficult to achieve bounty.

As a manager it is part of my role to make sure that my soldiers are well administered and that their efforts are rewarded, with this in mind I have taken vigorous steps to ensure that these guys and girls are aware of what they need to do.

My plea to you all is to do likewise, if for no other reason than that of retention, but just as importantly to stick one up the bean counters who have no doubt already factored this into their budget forecasts.
 
#19
sleeps2go said:
I happened to be checking over bounty progress within my Sqn last weekend, on looking closely at "Bounty Hunters" I found that with the restriction in MTDs a large proportion of fringe attendees will now find it very difficult to achieve bounty.

The lowering to MATT 3 means that it is now easy to pass. You can do them all from the TAC. It will only be hard if they have to turn up for certan weekends eg Reg EX's.

As a manager it is part of my role to make sure that my soldiers are well administered and that their efforts are rewarded, with this in mind I have taken vigorous steps to ensure that these guys and girls are aware of what they need to do.

My plea to you all is to do likewise, if for no other reason than that of retention, but just as importantly to stick one up the bean counters who have no doubt already factored this into their budget forecasts.

I can smell what you are cooking and it smells good to me.[/quote]
 
#20
sleeps2go said:
I happened to be checking over bounty progress within my Sqn last weekend, on looking closely at "Bounty Hunters" I found that with the restriction in MTDs a large proportion of fringe attendees will now find it very difficult to achieve bounty.

As a manager it is part of my role to make sure that my soldiers are well administered and that their efforts are rewarded, with this in mind I have taken vigorous steps to ensure that these guys and girls are aware of what they need to do.

My plea to you all is to do likewise, if for no other reason than that of retention, but just as importantly to stick one up the bean counters who have no doubt already factored this into their budget forecasts.
I think that's the message from DRes(A) anyway in the TAQ - ....we will prevail.

You can't prevail if no-one is turning up or the actions of the beancounters in their ivory towers has demoralised a volunteer force.

I think that it's your duty as a leader to ensure that everyone has the opportunity to achieve bounty - it's not the money as such, it's more the fact that they will then be classified as 'efficient' by the system which is almost more important - another aspect that the beancounters will have overlooked.

I could get very depressed about this but it won't achieve anything. We need to carry on - I'm just now waiting for someone to tell me that I cannot be paid for work that I have already done....
 
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