MTD Restrictions

If you know, how many days have you got this year?

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#1
Having read a number of the recent threads, there seems to be recurring references to MTDs being restricted in certain units/corps/brigades.

There doesn't seem to be a common restriction, or understanding. Is it misconceptions, individual perceptions of events and information, or is there something in print somewhere about it?

In essence, the more that MTDs are restricted, the more likely that we'll end up with low level training, skill fade, and poor retention.

How does that fit with 'the reserve of first choice'?

What is going on?
 
#2
No-ones mentioned anything.

I'll just keep turning up until someone says stop. If that happens, I'm sure there's another worthwhile organisation that will want me.

Now, where's my old squash raquet?
 
#3
I feel sorry for those guy limited in the 30 days or so, If I was in one of those units I'd transfer sharpish, that'll learn 'em when people vote with their feet.
 
#4
we were at first restricted to 30 days,but after no-one turned up for about a 6-7 weeks,this was adjusted to 40.people still are'nt turning up,except to hand kit in,apparently they can get regular cash at asda,or tesco's.we're currently doing one weekend a month,and being paid for 2 1/2 days now,upped from 2 days.we had 9 o.r.'s in this weekend,with as many seniors,plus officers,for a matt sweep weekend,in july?why the fcku are we doing matts so early?then the c.o. asked for volunteers for herrick.why bother,they wont have a clue what to do with their feckin toolboxes when they get there(r.e.m.e. by the way).my battalion seems to have lost it's way somewhat in the whole one army concept,we are not one army,it's a load of boll**ks.anyone can come through the door and be called a v.m. or v.e.,when in fact they are neither,just a part time,part trained soldier,and it grips my sh*t.anyway rant over,by the way i did volunteer!
 
#5
Everybody in 34 Signal Regt has had their days cut. Apart from the CO who is on Rockstar wages. People on potential officer schemes range from 29-45 days and youve still got to pass unit specs and MATTS. It's not possible with 29 days to do both. Also you bother your ass to pass sandhurst and then you've got no one to look after in you runit. Officer recruitment is extremelt low and they have now dealt it a further blow! Whats the point?
 
#6
ten501uk said:
we were at first restricted to 30 days,but after no-one turned up for about a 6-7 weeks,this was adjusted to 40.people still are'nt turning up,except to hand kit in,apparently they can get regular cash at asda,or tesco's.we're currently doing one weekend a month,and being paid for 2 1/2 days now,upped from 2 days.we had 9 o.r.'s in this weekend,with as many seniors,plus officers,for a matt sweep weekend,in july?why the fcku are we doing matts so early?then the c.o. asked for volunteers for herrick.why bother,they wont have a clue what to do with their feckin toolboxes when they get there(r.e.m.e. by the way).my battalion seems to have lost it's way somewhat in the whole one army concept,we are not one army,it's a load of boll**ks.anyone can come through the door and be called a v.m. or v.e.,when in fact they are neither,just a part time,part trained soldier,and it grips my sh*t.anyway rant over,by the way i did volunteer!
Where are you? - same Bde as 34SR?
 
#7
There does seem to be a trend non teeth arms seem to be alot more tighter on mtd, my battalion (6th rifles) have no limits at all
 
#11
i know one infantry unit that is my local one where i used to be and still have a few freinds there

have been told there is only 2 weekends between now & march cause they have overspent big style in from this years budget. the only priority is recruit training for them but whats the point recruiting all these troops if once trained they cant come and join the rest.
 
#12
19, but then I'm Special Needs ... sorry, that should read "Specialist". :)

Although apparently I can get more if I'm attached...
 
#13
COS1SigBde said:
No-ones mentioned anything.

I'll just keep turning up until someone says stop. If that happens, I'm sure there's another worthwhile organisation that will want me.

Now, where's my old squash raquet?
But you are not paid through MTDs are you :)
 
#14
IDONTNEEDAHAIRCUT said:
ten501uk said:
we had 9 o.r.'s in this weekend,
That's 5 more than we had in.

We had 4 juniors and 3 seniors in barracks (plus 2 officers and 3 seniors away on a CPX).

MrTracey said:
or is there something in print somewhere about it?
Does a letter from the CO count ? If so then yes.
4? - ouch!

what does the letter say? - his decision or Bde's?
 
#15
No restrictions down here in London, perhaps due to our bankrolling two afghan deployments back to back (one composite transport Troop having just returned and a Squadron on the way out)as a result perhaps we have secured adequate MTDs for this training year?

I cant imagine how an RLC DROPS unit can maintain/ train enough drivers on restricted MTDS, considering the amount of license acquisition courses required, means that it can take up to three years to train DROPS operators at the present rate from entry as being a civilian without a Cat B licence. Throw in the new drivers hours regime and WFM, it has the potential to destroy a unit rapidly.

This is also a vicious circle, cut MTD’s lead to soldiers not being adequately trained, and toms leaving, so a unit that cant fulfil its mobilisation requests, might further have its MTD allocation slashed. A real false economy if ever I saw one.
 
#16
MrTracey said:
IDONTNEEDAHAIRCUT said:
ten501uk said:
we had 9 o.r.'s in this weekend,
That's 5 more than we had in.

We had 4 juniors and 3 seniors in barracks (plus 2 officers and 3 seniors away on a CPX).

MrTracey said:
or is there something in print somewhere about it?
Does a letter from the CO count ? If so then yes.
4? - ouch!

what does the letter say? - his decision or Bde's?
First paragraph reads "The regiment has now received confirmation of its MTD allocation for this Training year and this has been briefed to your Squadron Commander, PSAO and SPSI's, giving them the detailed allocations for all ranks within your squadron"

I presume this means that it came from brigade (15 NE) but that individual limits have been worked out by regt with some tweaking by sqn's.
 
#17
IDONTNEEDAHAIRCUT said:
MrTracey said:
IDONTNEEDAHAIRCUT said:
ten501uk said:
we had 9 o.r.'s in this weekend,
That's 5 more than we had in.

We had 4 juniors and 3 seniors in barracks (plus 2 officers and 3 seniors away on a CPX).

MrTracey said:
or is there something in print somewhere about it?
Does a letter from the CO count ? If so then yes.
4? - ouch!

what does the letter say? - his decision or Bde's?
First paragraph reads "The regiment has now received confirmation of its MTD allocation for this Training year and this has been briefed to your Squadron Commander, PSAO and SPSI's, giving them the detailed allocations for all ranks within your squadron"

I presume this means that it came from brigade (15 NE) but that individual limits have been worked out by regt with some tweaking by sqn's.
Motivational stuff!! No wonder there was so few in.
 
#18
I don't want to post the whole letter but I should add that it goes on to say that he has striven to ensure that everyone has enough MTD's to deliver the regimental objectives and for everyone to qualify for bounty. Plus additional MTD's for role specific duties (SSM, SQMS, Troop OC etc)

The core activities being 25 MTD's for special to arm tng (camp/course, maintenance and exercises) plus 1 weekend for MATTS. There will also be an opportunity for up to 2 days adventure tng.

Of the juniors in at the weekend:
2 have been allocated 28 days (both siggies)
1 has been allocated approx 36 days (siggie on the recruiting team)
1 has been allocated 40 (cpl/det cdr)

My sqn's other troop had 8 people in barracks (unknown junior to senior ratio)
 
#19
Surely MTD's are applied to a unit as a whole? If We have say 50 guys on the books and all are alocated 32 days per year and only 20 turn up on a regular basis, then the other 30 guys days are up for grabs, are they not?

Or is that too simple a solution?
 
#20
IDONTNEEDAHAIRCUT said:
I don't want to post the whole letter but I should add that it goes on to say that he has striven to ensure that everyone has enough MTD's to deliver the regimental objectives and for everyone to qualify for bounty. Plus additional MTD's for role specific duties (SSM, SQMS, Troop OC etc)

The core activities being 25 MTD's for special to arm tng (camp/course, maintenance and exercises) plus 1 weekend for MATTS. There will also be an opportunity for up to 2 days adventure tng.

Of the juniors in at the weekend:
2 have been allocated 28 days (both siggies)
1 has been allocated approx 36 days (siggie on the recruiting team)
1 has been allocated 40 (cpl/det cdr)
Is it me or is this just surreal?

Here we are, the 'Reserve of first choice', fighting a social upheaval of significant proportions (the Playstation generation), providing real support to the regular Army to enable it to achieve it's aims, and we have a situation so dire, that we have to ration out the 'reward' for being 'twice a citizen'!!!

The world has gone mad.

The centre really needs to get it's act together as that being described above is nothing short of scandalous whilst vaguely pathetic. What has this man's army stooped to when it starts such a process? How can a Cpl limit his days as a det comd to 40? - 15 on Camp, 4-5 on Exercise (which isn't enough anyway), 36 Drill nights (9 days), MATTs, ceremonial, an AT weekend and that's it!!

Barking. Values and Standards need a serious look at if this continues.

It's simple stupid...we establish an aim and then generate an organisation with appropriate resources to acheive that aim - mission command'ish - and crack on. We don't establish an aim and then withdraw resource half way through without adjusting the aim to accommodate the changes.

The aim remains, therefore fund it. If there's no funding, then change the aim.

Our problem is that we continue to turn to the left and get on with it whilst all around us the system is creaking and slowing down. It's time that it failed - they (Brown) might take notice then.
 
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