MSP under fire over fat, dumb methadone users remarks

#1
Seems someone at last has got it right,not surprising the bleedin hearts brigade are bleating about his comments.
'A SENIOR Conservative politician was criticised yesterday after claiming many drug addicts were sitting "fat, dumb and happy" on methadone'
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#4
Can't see anything wrong with his comments if you ask me.

The whole point of treatment is to get people of the sh1t. If they were still on the stuff for a long period of time it ain't working

More to the point Methadone is addictive if given repeatedly, and can give similar effects as Heroine. Not to mention other side effects like stomach ulcers, constipation, swelling of body parts and crash weight gain. Seizures and chronic headaches also feature.

So "Fat, Dum and happy" fits (fat because of the weight game, dum because they are stupid enough to take drugs in the first place, happy becasue they are the happy pills).

a druggy hippy advice company person said:
We need to see methadone as part of a strategy which embraces all forms of rehabilitation, from abstinence right through to being maintained on methadone," he said.
B0110x.

They have 6 months to ween themselves off the sh1t, then they get locked in a room. Not allowed out until 10 weeks later, when they've stopped climbing the walls.

Then a period of retraining, rehabilitation and education. With a daily CDT. Fail CDT, back in hole you go druggy.

Works for me.
 
#5
well they got the 'dumb' bit right! Leaving it where a 2 year old can find it is about as dumb as it gets! And thats giving the benefit of the doubt and assuming it was accidental......

Child 2 dies of methadone poisoning

Two men have been arrested after a two-year-old boy was believed to have died from an overdose of the heroin substitute methadone.

His brother, three, is in a stable condition and a four-month-old boy was treated as a precaution, police said.
 
#6
As so often occurs, there is a lack of clear thinking here. Druggies need cheap heroin, and heroin is cheap on the Pakistan/Afghan border. The cost of living is cheap on the Pakistan/Afghan border, so it would cost less to maintain them there. The weather is also a lot nicer, so after they have poisoned themselves, they can go and sit in the sun all day. So why not send all the druggies to the Pakistan/Afghan border with a small daily stipend and let everyone benefit?
 
#7
Aloysius said:
As so often occurs, there is a lack of clear thinking here. Druggies need cheap heroin, and heroin is cheap on the Pakistan/Afghan border. The cost of living is cheap on the Pakistan/Afghan border, so it would cost less to maintain them there. The weather is also a lot nicer, so after they have poisoned themselves, they can go and sit in the sun all day. So why not send all the druggies to the Pakistan/Afghan border with a small daily stipend and let everyone benefit?
I do like your logic :D Sadly common sense like this will never take place..
 
#8
CC_TA said:
Why do people get criticised for telling the truth? Bloody dogooder brigade needs a fkcuing good kicking.
I've never met a fat methadone user. Every junkie I've seen is as skinny as a rake. Clearly the MSP was talking bollox and is deservedly criticised.

Unless he get's his facts right, the MSP best get used to being criticised. Fat junkies indeed, how ridiculous.
 
#9
Chibber said:
CC_TA said:
Why do people get criticised for telling the truth? Bloody dogooder brigade needs a fkcuing good kicking.
I've never met a fat methadone user. Every junkie I've seen is as skinny as a rake. Clearly the MSP was talking bollox and is deservedly criticised.

Unless he get's his facts right, the MSP best get used to being criticised. Fat junkies indeed, how ridiculous.
And yet.....

Myth: Methadone makes you gain weight.

Reality: Not everyone gains weight when they go on methadone, but some do. This is usually because methadone improves your health and appetite, and so you eat more. If you’ve been using drugs for a long time, you may be underweight and need to gain a few pounds.

Even though the methadone drink is not “fattening” like sweets and fatty foods, methadone can slow your metabolism and cause water retention, which can lead to weight gain. You can control weight gain by choosing healthy foods that are high in fibre such as whole grains and fruits and vegetables, and by exercising regularly. If you nourish your body, you’ll keep the pounds off, and more important, you’ll feel good.
from http://www.camh.net/Care_Treatment/...ntenance_Treatment/mmt_clienthndbk_myths.html

Centre for Addiction and Mental Health website.

and

The most common side effects are: weight gain, constipation, increased intake of fluids, increased frequency of urination, tingling in the hands and feet, increased sweating, skin rash, nausea and delayed ejaculation. Symptoms may be temporary.
From Discoveryhouse, the centre for rehabilitation and hope (fcuk knows who these people are but I like the rehab and hope bit).
 
#10
Chibber said:
CC_TA said:
Why do people get criticised for telling the truth? Bloody dogooder brigade needs a fkcuing good kicking.
I've never met a fat methadone user. Every junkie I've seen is as skinny as a rake. Clearly the MSP was talking bollox and is deservedly criticised.

Unless he get's his facts right, the MSP best get used to being criticised. Fat junkies indeed, how ridiculous.
Well, he also called them "dumb". And not even you can argue with calling a junkie stupid... :roll:
 
#11
chocolate_frog said:
Chibber said:
CC_TA said:
Why do people get criticised for telling the truth? Bloody dogooder brigade needs a fkcuing good kicking.
I've never met a fat methadone user. Every junkie I've seen is as skinny as a rake. Clearly the MSP was talking bollox and is deservedly criticised.

Unless he get's his facts right, the MSP best get used to being criticised. Fat junkies indeed, how ridiculous.
And yet.....

Myth: Methadone makes you gain weight.

Reality: Not everyone gains weight when they go on methadone, but some do. This is usually because methadone improves your health and appetite, and so you eat more. If you’ve been using drugs for a long time, you may be underweight and need to gain a few pounds.

Even though the methadone drink is not “fattening” like sweets and fatty foods, methadone can slow your metabolism and cause water retention, which can lead to weight gain. You can control weight gain by choosing healthy foods that are high in fibre such as whole grains and fruits and vegetables, and by exercising regularly. If you nourish your body, you’ll keep the pounds off, and more important, you’ll feel good.
from http://www.camh.net/Care_Treatment/...ntenance_Treatment/mmt_clienthndbk_myths.html

Centre for Addiction and Mental Health website.

and

The most common side effects are: weight gain, constipation, increased intake of fluids, increased frequency of urination, tingling in the hands and feet, increased sweating, skin rash, nausea and delayed ejaculation. Symptoms may be temporary.
From Discoveryhouse, the centre for rehabilitation and hope (fcuk knows who these people are but I like the rehab and hope bit).
FuckMe!!! Who would have thought? First thoughts would be that junkies aren't taking their methadone, but that's clearly bollox. I can only guess that junkies just don't eat.
 
#12
About time someone called it straight. Fat, skinny whatever.
12 million pounds of our taxes were wasted last year in Scotland alone "helping" these waste of space Junkies.
What was the marvellous success rate:- 3% , 3 fukcin percent!!!
Where are the Germans with those specially adapted ablutions when you need them?
 
#13
I completely agree with the gentleman. The encouragement of drug addiction is pointless and hugely damaging, and there is a roll call of dead children to testify to this. Drug addict parents should not be allowed to conceive children (contraceptive implant) or - heaven forbid - to look after them.

The reporting of the latest death does not convey the wanton neglect of these "parents".

This is a medicine bottle:



I have a similar bottle, larger, full of Zantac (liquid) for my baby daughter's reflux. I would be astounded if methadone was not supplied (when not swigged down the chemist) in a similar bottle.

The key feature is a child-proof top. I would never leave a bottle lying around but I doubt a toddler could open it.

This means the feckless negligent addicts have been leaving opened bottles of methadone around, or storing it in other unsafe containers.

This is not some tragic "accident", it is negligence and fecklessness of the most appalling degree, perpetuated by useless social services. This is what killed those children. :evil:
 
#14
Why on earth are children left with druggie (L)users who are on methadone?
 

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#15
If it keeps them sitting on a smelly sofa watching daytime TV rather than screwing my car or mugging my Mum, it gets my vote.
 
#16
'A SENIOR Conservative politician was criticised yesterday after claiming many drug addicts were sitting "fat, dumb and happy" on methadone'
Sorry he is wrong, all the users round here are skinny cnuts,who look like they were extras from Schindlers List,the only good thing is they will be dead in a few years.
 
#17
'Sitting there fat, dumb and happy' is a turn of phrase - unfortunately since the words 'fat' and 'dumb' are non-PC (and I'm not sure we're allowed to be happy now unless we fit certain criteria), the usual 'waiting to be offended' brigade have pounced on the words rather than the message.

Since the solution proffered might gain public support, but would involve something other than unquestionning compassion - which was called 'being soft' when I was a lad - those opposed to the idea of upsetting the junkies in any way, shape or form have chosen to play the man instead of the ball. As always. <Sigh>
 
#18
never seen an overly fat methadone user
its used cause its cheap
rehab can work but its expensive
 
#19
brighton hippy said:
never seen an overly fat methadone user
its used cause its cheap
rehab can work but its expensive
I'm willing to bet a 9mm round to the back of the junkie's head is even cheaper! :twisted:
 
#20
jarrod248 said:
FrankCastle said:
brighton hippy said:
never seen an overly fat methadone user
its used cause its cheap
rehab can work but its expensive
I'm willing to bet a 9mm round to the back of the junkie's head is even cheaper! :twisted:
We keep having the same threads when this last came up I did mention my patients that were squaddies and had used Heroin no doubt due to PTSD and poor support. I think from memory each one is working full-time as are many of my patients.
Should I send them to see you for a 9mm round?
Nah, send them to me, mate; I'll use a Machette - even cheaper! :twisted:
 

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