Discussion in 'Jobs (Discussion)' started by RumBumandBaccy, Jan 30, 2008.

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  1. Does anyone work in HR or have any experience of the MSc(HRM)?
    I leave the Andrew in three years time and I am considering moving into HR.

    I have just finished a BA(Hons) (non-management related) with the OU and the level 5 Diploma in Management with the ILM. I have an opportunity to begin the CIPD Certificate in Personnel Practice in the next couple of months.

    I would like to have some form of postgraduate qualification when I leave the mob and the MSc(HRM) has caught my eye. My intitial thoughts were that it sounds a bit "faddy" but I counted 16 universities offering the course in the first couple of pages of google including highly rated institutions such as KCL and LSE.

    Any info greatly appreciated.
  2. Forastero

    Forastero LE Moderator

    A mate of mine is doing this exact course through Shrivenham but he's not on Arrse. I'll have a chat with him - persuade him to join - and see if he can give you any pointers.
  3. Cheers mate.
  4. Rum,

    I finish the MSc HRM in July after 3 years study. My dissertation is due in April. I studied in the East Midlands and am an RAF officer leaving at my 38/16 point. HR is not technically my military field but I have 10 years experience in specialist HR functions. My CV is well written and I have revised down the salary expectations consistently over the last month to the extent that I am now applying for jobs that will effect a 50% pay cut.

    Since December I have applied for 30 jobs in HR and had one interview. The vast majority have told me 'no commerical experience' or 'we have had other applicants that more closely meet our requirements' or 'you do not have sufficient HR experience'.

    My advice: don't waste £5-6k on a role that will still mean you have to take an £18k trainee job and work your way up from.

    If you need more advice or explanation pm me and we can talk by phone. The MSc itself is not difficult though the dissertation and assignments can be time consuming, especially in years 2 and 3.

  5. Forastero

    Forastero LE Moderator

    Rum, mate had a look at your post but he's forgotten his log in and all that. However, he's in the middle of his MSc and says Benedictine is more up to date with his info as he's completed his. Hope this helps.
  6. Thanks mate.

  7. Thanks for the info Bene.

    You seem much better qualified for an HR role than me so to hear that you have been having difficulties finding a way in is very disheartening.

    I think I will have to revise my future plans and explore other potential career avenues.
  8. RumBumandBaccy,
    IMHO you are starting to make all the right moves towards a successful return to civvie life and work. Getting letters after your name (apart from your postal address) is a good move and I wish you every success.

    As others have commented many employers will look for commercial experience, meaning in simple terms " don't appear to have worked for a civilian organisation doing things that I can relate to..." So what you need to do is pluck out from your many Andrew years things that DO relate to commercial practice and thrust these onto your CV and under the noses of prospective employers. Things such as : loyalty, trust, good timekeeping, good team worker, leadership qualities to name but a few. And specifically for business have you maintained a mess account, controlled stock or stores, run a bar at a profit, promoted events ? - all these CAN find equivalence in civilian life and need to be spelled out to civilians who may think your experience is limited to knowledge of what to do when "hands to bathe!" is piped and how to tie a reef knot. (Perhaps a little overstated).

    Anyway I am ex army did an MSc at Uni of Leicester which propelled me well up the ladder and last October I completed my Doctorate, landing a job immediately as a result. So go for it! Have a look at CLMS is a department of University of Leicester Social Sciences faculty and has quite a number of servicemen and women students. Of course pull all the stops out to get maximum funding whilst you are still serving.

    Happy to receive PMs.
  9. Cheers Jim,

    PM inbound.
  10. Great....I've got this rash......

    Woops, wrong type! :oops: