The thread is also entitled 'whither the Tory Party' so here goes.
Watched the programme last night about the Tory Party "Tories at war" where a camera team followed the trials and tribulations of the Tories over a year.
Very interesting and the split in the Tories was quite apparent, although editing would be designed to show that. A lot of time was spent with Alan "I love me" Duncan who railed at the ERG constantly, swearing frequently and furiously, blaming them for the break-up of the Tory Party. Absolutely nothing about him and his cohort of 21 rebels trying to follow a deal that parliament had thrown out with huge defeats. All the fault of the ERG not voting for it. 20 or 30 ERG members yet it lost by three figure amounts. Duncan came across as a bitter, narcissistic tw@t.
Overall the programme was just like any other fly-on-the-wall documentary with very obvi8s editing to keep matters on the split in the Tories.
Here is a review from the Independent (which is anything but) which gives a good run down of the programme. Tories at War review: Lack of restraint among Conversatives is stunning to behold
And one from the other side of the spectrum, the Telegraph Tories at War, review: a jarringly jaunty documentary about our democratic crisis
If you missed it, look it up on Catch Up TV, very entertaining. I think @Brotherton Lad was the editor!
I think the Tories are about 30 years overdue for a split and reformation.
If you peruse through the articles and responding comments in ConservativeHome, its quite apparent that there are two entirely immiscible groups in the commanding part of the party (activists, Westminster, HQ, MPs). By far the larger part appears to be solidly left-liberal, with only a much smaller rump standing for traditional Conservatism.
These proportions appear to be reversed among the grassroots and local members - but then they appear to be irrelevant to the Westminster party.
I find it diffucult to envisage how the current Tory party will ever again raise a strong government that enjoys the support of "middle England" and other core electoral blocks.
Probably like many/most on Arrse, I'm a typical Brit who adheres to a "c"onservative world view. I actually stopped voting Tory when they anointed CMD to the leadership - I viewed that as an unacceptable leap to the left, and I saw right through that particular character at the time.
Now, when I read through ConservativeHome and examine the views and motivations expressed there, I just feel that the majority of the Westminster Tory party are not aligned with my "c"onservative views, and that,. therefore, I cannot vote for them.
I think a lot of people would hope that BJ or Mogg turns out to be a political colossus, and that they'll bin the old Tory brand, lead away the remaining old school Conservatives, and build a new party based on "c"onservative values. Sadly, I think that is very unlikely - the self preservation of the Tory party apparatus quite demonstrably over-rides even political philosophy. Probably they'll just continue the march to the populist Left.