Mrs May - whither (or wither) the Tory Party

They are rapidly circling the dustbin of history. This is the crap they are putting out:


I give them 15 years before they are wound up.
Wish they were history now, 'The One Nation' conservative blather is exactly that and pushed by the wettest of spineless elitists It is and was a stunt by the wets to try and gain votes amongst the working class, labour voter.

The Tories gained more working class labour voters by, implementing polices that made all of the nation better off. which is a real one nation policy, some labour voters wont vote conservative even if and when it benefits them as they are blinkered by socialist ideology, that encourages class division and dreams of a class war.
 
Watching BBC2 - Thatcher: A Very British Revolution 1/5
Heath out of touch and over confident (deluded) lost to Labour. Callaghan arrived, along with a three day week and economic disaster. The country was being ****** over by almost continual strikes. Appeasing the unions as Heath had done before him had yet again failed.

In 1978 Margaret Thatcher is the new Conservative and Union Leader. She has been honing her skills. Callaghan visits the Queen and asks to dissolve the government.

Some great insights and background. Great characters like Airey Neave, Norman Tebbit. Then there are the moody disproving characters - Michael Heseltine who had worked for Margaret but didn't rate her. He wouldn't as we will no doubt learn in part 5. How the party has changed since Major took over and lost to Labour.
 
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Watching BBC2 - Thatcher: A Very British Revolution 1/5
Heath out of touch and over confident (deluded) lost to Labour. Callaghan arrived, along with a three day week and economic disaster. The country was being ****** over by almost continual strikes. Appeasing the unions as Heath had done before him had yet again failed.

In 1978 Margaret Thatcher is the new Conservative and Union Leader. She has been honing her skills. Callaghan visits the Queen and asks to dissolve the government.

Some great insights and background. Great characters like Airey Neave, Norman Tebbit. Then there are the moody disproving characters - Michael Heseltine who had worked for Margaret but didn't rate her. He wouldn't as we will no doubt learn in part 5. How the party has changed since Major took over and lost to Labour.

Indeed, While i have always found myself conflicted over Margaret Thatcher, I joined up in 1979, at the age of 17 and was happy to get a pay rise from her.

As the years passed I still remained conflicted about some of her policy's, not from a idealogical position but rather the ways some ended up being implemented and, who i attribute to the actions over the years of some of her spineless cabinet.

In the round I believe she was as important, as Churchill was for the survival of the UK and its long haul back from bankruptcy. This she did against the best efforts of her political enemies, including those inside the conservative party, across much of the many parties of opposition, and by the active communists sympathisers of the left who infected many elements of society during the 'Cold War'.

Regardless of her mistakes and missteps, I would not hesitate to vote for her as she was, in a heartbeat today.
 
Watching BBC2 - Thatcher: A Very British Revolution 1/5
Heath out of touch and over confident (deluded) lost to Labour. Callaghan arrived, along with a three day week and economic disaster. The country was being ****** over by almost continual strikes. Appeasing the unions as Heath had done before him had yet again failed.

In 1978 Margaret Thatcher is the new Conservative and Union Leader. She has been honing her skills. Callaghan visits the Queen and asks to dissolve the government.

Some great insights and background. Great characters like Airey Neave, Norman Tebbit. Then there are the moody disproving characters - Michael Heseltine who had worked for Margaret but didn't rate her. He wouldn't as we will no doubt learn in part 5. How the party has changed since Major took over and lost to Labour.
Has the makings of a cracking series. Some wonderful archive footage too - the country truly was on the verge of complete collapse.
Can you imagine the hysteria and meltdown of today’s snowflakes if confronted by the PM looking back at them through the TV and stating “We are only allowing three days a week of electricity”. Crazy, crazy times. Despite it all, the gravitas and stature of many of the talking heads of the time really does drive home the sheer ineptitude and mediocrity of many of our modern day politicians. Pygmies the lot of them.
 
Watching BBC2 - Thatcher: A Very British Revolution 1/5
Heath out of touch and over confident (deluded) lost to Labour. Callaghan arrived, along with a three day week and economic disaster. The country was being ****** over by almost continual strikes. Appeasing the unions as Heath had done before him had yet again failed.

In 1978 Margaret Thatcher is the new Conservative and Union Leader. She has been honing her skills. Callaghan visits the Queen and asks to dissolve the government.

Some great insights and background. Great characters like Airey Neave, Norman Tebbit. Then there are the moody disproving characters - Michael Heseltine who had worked for Margaret but didn't rate her. He wouldn't as we will no doubt learn in part 5. How the party has changed since Major took over and lost to Labour.
Yep,that was a really hard time for the country. My dad was a union man all his life,but even he thought they were taking the p**s. Piles of rubbish,coffins stacked up,even school dinner ladies were on strike.
 
Treason May and her government are so wrapped up failing with Brexit that the fate of British Steel appears to be of no concern. Without government support, at relatively little cost compared to other (vanity) government projects, it will be gone and Corbyn will appear dangerously attractive.
 
Treason May and her government are so wrapped up failing with Brexit that the fate of British Steel appears to be of no concern. Without government support, at relatively little cost compared to other (vanity) government projects, it will be gone and Corbyn will appear dangerously attractive.
Should we actually support a failing industry?

Is it a strategic asset- gen question...
 
Should we actually support a failing industry?

Is it a strategic asset- gen question...

Its a tricky question, I always thought that it should have been rescued when it was a British company, but that fcuking labour weasel Mandelson chinned that off.

It is a strategic asset, but is it India's asset or the UK's. As with so much infrastructure, we don't as a nation own it but we pay for it. PPI on steroids. Fcuking Labour.


Much like the car industry outside of niche manufacturers they are all foreign owned, so why would they care about manufacturing in the UK when Turkey was cheaper for Ford and Slovakia is Jaguar land-rovers cheap choice.

Thinking back to the 70's if Citroën had proposed manufacturing in any nation other than France well the 'Guillotine' would have been wheeled out pretty dam quick.
 
Other companies? Despite my lack of in depth knowledge I am presuming that steel is still made all around the world and is available on the open market.

The only argument for supporting a failing industry is if HMG consider it to be a strategic requirement to retain that capability.
Well it is made all around the world which is why the Chinese are flooding the market with at this time cheap steel but once other nations lose that capability and more important a skilled workforce, Then the cheap steel wont be cheap and the Research and development that the UK is cutting edge will have gone too.

That was at the heart some of my issues with the privatisation by Maggie, public ownership by owning a share in the nations assets good... The inevitable carpet bagging and danger of foreign purchase into strategic infrastructure BAD.

That Fcuking 'May' cant see this, with Huawei on just an economic case let alone the more important security issues, leaves me thinking 'I must be fcuking Einstein' cos I can.
 
Well it is made all around the world which is why the Chinese are flooding the market with at this time cheap steel but once other nations lose that capability and more important a skilled workforce, Then the cheap steel wont be cheap and the Research and development that the UK is cutting edge will have gone too.
Opportunists are blaming Brexit of course. £30m to resolve a shortfall vs £9m anti-Brexit campaign in 2016 by Cameron's gov't puts it in to some sort of perspective perhaps.
 
I may be suspicious, but I wonder if I would be right in thinking Mrs May launched today's announcement at Price-Waterhouse Cooper because
  • The journos could be hand picked,
  • There'd be no heckling from the staff,
  • There'd be no requirement to hand out pre-briefings, and critically...
  • No requirement to answer MP's questions.
Bodes well for getting in Parliament if any of my above suspicions are accurate.
 
Treason May and her government are so wrapped up failing with Brexit that the fate of British Steel appears to be of no concern. Without government support, at relatively little cost compared to other (vanity) government projects, it will be gone and Corbyn will appear dangerously attractive.
apparently the tax payer has already given british steel 100 million to pay the eu carbon tax for them - now they want another 30 million - if we bail them out again we need a proper strategy to make what they do pay - if we cant do that then we are simply pissing into the wind
 
I may be suspicious, but I wonder if I would be right in thinking Mrs May launched today's announcement at Price-Waterhouse Cooper because
  • The journos could be hand picked,
  • There'd be no heckling from the staff,
  • There'd be no requirement to hand out pre-briefings, and critically...
  • No requirement to answer MP's questions.
Bodes well for getting in Parliament if any of my above suspicions are accurate.
With investigative insights like that you should become a copper... :razz:
 
apparently the tax payer has already given british steel 100 million to pay the eu carbon tax for them - now they want another 30 million - if we bail them out again we need a proper strategy to make what they do pay - if we cant do that then we are simply pissing into the wind
This is the political conundrum, that will never be discussed, honestly. Its also clearly a tactic to talk down the fact that its an Indian company.
 
I may be suspicious, but

I wonder if I would be right in thinking Mrs May launched today's announcement at Price-Waterhouse Cooper because
  • The journos could be hand picked,
  • There'd be no heckling from the staff,
  • There'd be no requirement to hand out pre-briefings, and critically...
  • No requirement to answer MP's questions.
Bodes well for getting in Parliament if any of my above suspicions are accurate.
I reckon you'd be about spot on there ...

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With investigative insights like that you should become a copper... :razz:
No, had a coffee with an old colleague. Glad I left, the stories I was hearing.
 

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