Mrs May - whither (or wither) the Tory Party

Not sure you have seen this, it's taken off Guidos site and is the Conservative Home result - in house Tory survey.
The other thing of note is International Development Secretary Penny Mordaunt has had a busy morning following dozens of local Conservative association accounts on Twitter. Is this the 2018 equivalent of installing banks of telephone lines..?
This is I think a precursor to a Leadership bid if the key Brexit vote is a total disaster and she is monumentally drubbed!
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Penny M may be working out if she has a chance with a leadership challenge, but BJ has been awfully quiet lately so he may very well be further ahead with courting favour.
 
So any bets on how long she lasts?

I’d like to say immediately after the vote, but I suspect she will be in post in January still
 

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Penny M may be working out if she has a chance with a leadership challenge, but BJ has been awfully quiet lately so he may very well be further ahead with courting favour.
You cant be watching much TV news as BoJo has been on quite a lot, including a speech to the DUP conference and several interviews.
 
You cant be watching much TV news as BoJo has been on quite a lot, including a speech to the DUP conference and several interviews.
Saw the DUP speech, I even put it on here, but I've not seen any TV interviews and I watch both Sky News and BBC News quite often. Normally both channels would repeat anything BJ says ad nauseum.
 
I’ve just cast my vote on the daily torygraph question ‘should she resign this month?’

95% of respondents said ‘yup’
 
He should have saved his money. If it came to a leadership election, he hasn't a chance. His Tory colleagues (even the pro-Brexit ones) have been overpowered by the reek of desperate personal ambition coming off him.
As opposed to the utter lack of personal ambition displayed by every other MP in Parliament? Right...

The attached Guido link makes a compelling argument:

The Boris Paradox: Hated by the Elite, Loved by Voters -

"Boris is detested by his former colleagues in the political media. The overwhelmingly remain-backing political class will never forgive him for leading the Leave campaign to success. The broadsheets traduce him every day. The political editors of the tabloids look for any excuse to give him a kicking. Yet only last month he was once again found to be the most popular leading politician in England…"
 
As opposed to the utter lack of personal ambition displayed by every other MP in Parliament? Right...

The attached Guido link makes a compelling argument:

The Boris Paradox: Hated by the Elite, Loved by Voters -

"Boris is detested by his former colleagues in the political media. The overwhelmingly remain-backing political class will never forgive him for leading the Leave campaign to success. The broadsheets traduce him every day. The political editors of the tabloids look for any excuse to give him a kicking. Yet only last month he was once again found to be the most popular leading politician in England…"
Londonistan voted him on then look what took over from him. Same voters.

Like it or not he will unify the people. The politicians are an irrelevance. They make little difference anyway.........
 
Londonistan voted him on then look what took over from him. Same voters.

Like it or not he will unify the people. The politicians are an irrelevance. They make little difference anyway.........
I've never been a Boris fan, far from it in fact, but out of the current bunch on either side of the House he'd get my vote.
 
As opposed to the utter lack of personal ambition displayed by every other MP in Parliament? Right...

The attached Guido link makes a compelling argument:

The Boris Paradox: Hated by the Elite, Loved by Voters -

"Boris is detested by his former colleagues in the political media. The overwhelmingly remain-backing political class will never forgive him for leading the Leave campaign to success. The broadsheets traduce him every day. The political editors of the tabloids look for any excuse to give him a kicking. Yet only last month he was once again found to be the most popular leading politician in England…"
Well, all I can say is that I am a Brexiteer (but not a Tory supporter or voter), not a politician and not a member of any elite and I think that the man is a supreme oaf. As far as Brexit is concerned, he was entirely a johnny-come-(very) lately to the cause and his belated commitment to leaving the EU was a calculated move as part of his personal advancement strategy. He could just as easily have gone the other way and would have had it suited his purposes.

You might find an unscientific poll obtained by a Tory fringe blog using uncertain methods 'compelling'. I don't.
 

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He should have saved his money. If it came to a leadership election, he hasn't a chance. His Tory colleagues (even the pro-Brexit ones) have been overpowered by the reek of desperate personal ambition coming off him.
That might be different if the vote is opened up to the membership. People are getting a tad pissed off with MPs and their shenanigans so trust in selecting a leader will probably not lie in Westminster.
 

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I've never been a Boris fan, far from it in fact, but out of the current bunch on either side of the House he'd get my vote.
Oddly enough all of the CS that work for him rate him highly. I certainly liked him, he had the Churchillian approach to problems, declare an aim, promise to deliver and then throw the right people at it to ensure it was delivered!
 

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That might be different if the vote is opened up to the membership. People are getting a tad pissed off with MPs and their shenanigans so trust in selecting a leader will probably not lie in Westminster.
Be nice if it happened, the Mp's dont trust their own constituencies so are unlikely to relinquish control!
 
Oddly enough all of the CS that work for him rate him highly. I certainly liked him, he had the Churchillian approach to problems, declare an aim, promise to deliver and then throw the right people at it to ensure it was delivered!
Wasn't there some phase of Churchills career where some elder statesmen said 'It's too early for Winston' acknowledging that he would attain PM status at some future point but, at that time, it wasn't suitable.
I'm wondering whether it may be 'too early for Boris' (although I'd hate to think 'post Corbyn' could become a prospect).
 
You may or may not be right there, I don't know. But the people who worked under him when he was London Mayor seemed to think that he was an utter w***er and bone idle.
Strangely, I've heard the exact opposite, from the mouths of people who actually dealt with him as Mayor. Considering the political hue of some of those people, their respect for Johnson was grudging and very hard won.

The same peoples' opinion of Mr Khan on the other hand is less complimentary. Make of that what you will.
 
Strangely, I've heard the exact opposite, from the mouths of people who actually dealt with him as Mayor. Considering the political hue of some of those people, their respect for Johnson was grudging and very hard won.

The same peoples' opinion of Mr Khan on the other hand is less complimentary. Make of that what you will.
I obviously have no personal knowledge, but everything that I've read about his tenure as London Mayor was that he only really could be bothered to stir his stumps was when there was likely to be a photo opportunity. The day to day stuff was delegated out of existence.

Agreed about Khan.
 

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