MPs Children

#1
I am f**king fed up with MP's/AM/SMP's etc saying "what a great sacrifice in life and limb our wonderful armed forces are giving for the benefit of the UK and it's security"

How many have son's or daughters serving? How many have stood up in the House and said " My kids kit is s**t".

Kim Howell nearly made me puke yesterday with his pathetic Boney BLiar spiele of Policy Speak. This the man who was investigated for destroying eveidence when a Taxi Driver was killed during the miners strike!!!!

Rant over but how many have serving children? (Royals exempt).
 
#3
Has anyone read "Red Storm Rising" by Tom Clancy? Theres a paragraph involving a conversation between a General and a Politburo member in there that I've found particularly apt,

"Those who would lead must serve first"

Similar to the Sandhurst motto, but I'd have more respect for an ex-military MP who had serving children. People may rubbish the Royals, but they always serve in the military and as is being shown with Harry, and Andrew in the Falklands, arn't afraid to serve on the front lines.

And before anyone says that Andy's chopper was secured to the deck miles away from the action for the war, he was still closer to it than young Blair.
 
#4
Good book, excellent quote Praetorian, if only it were true.
 
#5
So I take it that there aren't any?

"Red Storm Rising" Top Book and fabulous quote.
 
#7
I doubt there are any, lets face it, we'd have seen 'em splashed allover the dailys with copious amounts of 'War Hero' headlines thrown in for good measure and if true, it just points to them being even further removed from the public they are supposed to represent, in my opinion anyway....
 
#8
Morty said:
Similar to what Michael Moore asked member of Congress in Faranheit 9/11.
There are one or two Congress Members in America who have serving sons arn't there?
 

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#9
YANTOFULPELT said:
How many have stood up in the House and said " My kids kit is s**t".
It's not going to do their boy's career much good if they did, would it? So I suspect them that have keep shtum about it in public.
 
#10
Has it ever been raised in the House that kit is shit in general, not as a specific case?
 
#13
more to the point, sod the MP's children,
lets get some of those spineless mincers that call themsleves MP's out there to take the place of the lads we've lost this week!!

(not that they deserved to even breathe the same air as those lads did!!)
 
#14
War is the result of the failure of politicians. so you f*cked it up, get the green kit on and go and sort it out.
 
#15
fairmaidofperth said:
don't know about his kids, but Eric Joyce MP for Falkirk did his bit, he served in Black Watch
...and the AGC before he opted for self-service!
 
#17
Probably, but before it gets moved:

Whether or not an MP's children are serving shouldn't really be linked to the MP. That an MP's child volunteers should not be used by that MP to insulate themselves from political flak. Nor should the opposite - the lack of a serving or volunteering child - be used to condemn the MP. In both cases you would be taking the decisions of one adult and using them to either praise or condemn another. What would be beneath contempt would be an MP forcing one of their children into military service to advance their career.

The question that should be asked of our MPs in general and our SOS Defence in particular is not 'Do you have any children in the Forces?' but 'Have you served in the Forces, either as a regular or a Territorial?'.
 
#18
Banshee_09 said:
more to the point, sod the MP's children,
lets get some of those spineless mincers that call themsleves MP's out there to take the place of the lads we've lost this week!!

(not that they deserved to even breathe the same air as those lads did!!)
Mark Lancaster, the MP for NE Milton Keynes is a Maj in the RE TA and is currently spending the recess period in Afghanistan.

Not all are spineless sh1ts.
 
#19
Morty said:
Praetorian said:
Morty said:
Similar to what Michael Moore asked member of Congress in Faranheit 9/11.
There are one or two Congress Members in America who have serving sons arn't there?
Yeah, there was, thinking about it. But they declined to be interviewed I think. I haven't seen it in ages, so am probably wrong.
I think what actually happened is that one or two Congressmen responded that they did have sons serving, and Moore decided to ignore them as it didn't make him sound quite so smug.
 

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