MP to investigate how Lithuanian entered UK without passport

#1
Well in theory this shouldn't take long, would imagine one of the below. Linky

Back of truck
Shit border control at Ports/Airports
Under Channel Tunnel Train

But it will cost millions, loads of recommendations and slaps on the back for a job well done. In the meantime it will still happen.
 
#2
The only good thing about this case is that the scumball is now dead.I hope it was a slow death.

How many hundreds of thousands like him lurking in Britain?
 
#3
The whole Border Agency system is completely arsed up. On a similar theme, there was a report in today's Daily Mail about two Lithuanian "brides" (God, they are minging, see below), who have been jailed along with two Indian men for setting up arranged marriages so that the Indian men get EU citizenship. The most laughable part of the report says the two Indian men will be deported after completing their sentences, whereas no doubt the two Lithuanian ladies will be allowed to remain in this fair Isle because they are EU citizens. Completely barking.
 

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#4
If our two Lithuanian 'friends' receive a custodial sentence of 12 months or more then they will be deported too; the relevant laws are in place and they would only have very limited grounds for an almost certainly unsuccessful appeal.
 
#5
If our two Lithuanian 'friends' receive a custodial sentence of 12 months or more then they will be deported too; the relevant laws are in place and they would only have very limited grounds for an almost certainly unsuccessful appeal.
Britain needs to take a robust stance on immigration from EU countries and bar criminals from these countries entering the UK.If any of our EU"partnres" object,they should be directed to cfuk off.Simples.

Chances of this happening with the UK border Agency and the bufoons who run Britain?,the square root of sweet FA.
 
#6
Errm, forgive me if I am wrong, but lithuania became part of the EU in 2004, meaning free travel in Europe and the UK. They can just walk in after showing a passport. The national ID card would not be needed for a visitor.

How much money will it cost for this "investigation" to take place? Get on a plane, get off a plane, walk through the airport, sorted.
 

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#7
(slightly off topic, but only slightly) What would happen if the UK was to turn around and say **** off, I don't care if you're an EU citizen, you can't get any Welfare Money from the UK until you've been a UK tax payer for 24 months?

I know it's not likely to happen, but it would be interesting to see the EU leaders faces when the PM told them to ram the open borders thing up their hoops.
 
#8
If our two Lithuanian 'friends' receive a custodial sentence of 12 months or more then they will be deported too; the relevant laws are in place and they would only have very limited grounds for an almost certainly unsuccessful appeal.
History Man, I don't doubt that the relevant laws are in place. However, these "ladies", or more specifically, their lawyers, have yet to play the Human Rights card; guaranteeing their right to a family life in the UK. It is inevitable, sadly.
 
#10
Not necessarily, no. If they contracted fraudulent marriages, then they cannot realistically argue that their 'family life' is here. Our learned friends, the judiciary, are getting increasingly fed up with specious arguments which undermine confidence in the criminal justice system. I would be very, very surprised if they are not returned to Lithuania in due course. As EU/EEA nationals they cannot argue that they risk being persecuted in their own EU state. If I am wrong, I'll buy you a pint ;-)
 
#11
Not necessarily, no. If they contracted fraudulent marriages, then they cannot realistically argue that their 'family life' is here. Our learned friends, the judiciary, are getting increasingly fed up with specious arguments which undermine confidence in the criminal justice system. I would be very, very surprised if they are not returned to Lithuania in due course. As EU/EEA nationals they cannot argue that they risk being persecuted in their own EU state. If I am wrong, I'll buy you a pint ;-)
I'll defer to your better knowledge in this area - my own expertise is limited to what I can gether on the Internet and other media! I sincerely hope you are right - it is about time the judiciary "pushed back" against this tide of blatant piss taking.
With regards to the pint, happy to match you if you are proved right! :)
 
#12
Not necessarily, no. If they contracted fraudulent marriages, then they cannot realistically argue that their 'family life' is here. Our learned friends, the judiciary, are getting increasingly fed up with specious arguments which undermine confidence in the criminal justice system. I would be very, very surprised if they are not returned to Lithuania in due course. As EU/EEA nationals they cannot argue that they risk being persecuted in their own EU state. If I am wrong, I'll buy you a pint ;-)
I applaud your faith in the common-sense of the written law, however as we all know this is interpreted by fuckwit bleeding heart lawyers who will, after thousands of yours and mine pounds will allow these people to stay due to them owning a cat, budgie or hamster.
 
#13
(slightly off topic, but only slightly) What would happen if the UK was to turn around and say **** off, I don't care if you're an EU citizen, you can't get any Welfare Money from the UK until you've been a UK tax payer for 24 months?

I know it's not likely to happen, but it would be interesting to see the EU leaders faces when the PM told them to ram the open borders thing up their hoops.
It would mean that CMD has finally grown a pair. So you're right. It'll never happen.
 

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#14
Under Channel Tunnel Train
Why suffer a draught? Last time I came back on the tunnel they checked our ticket but not passports. Nor did they ask for ID. Breezed on at Gare du Norde, breezed off at St Pancras. The less said about their security protocols the better. As for the two Lithuanian lovelies, they will produce a cat they have adopted and claim the wrench of leaving it will unbalance their minds. You couldn't make it up.

BBC News - Immigrant cat story: Ken Clarke 'regrets' jibe at May
 
#15
Errm, forgive me if I am wrong, but lithuania became part of the EU in 2004, meaning free travel in Europe and the UK. They can just walk in after showing a passport. The national ID card would not be needed for a visitor.

How much money will it cost for this "investigation" to take place? Get on a plane, get off a plane, walk through the airport, sorted.
Not quite,Britain is not in the Schengen group which allows this.In theory,you have to show some form of ID to enter.
 
#16
The only good thing about this case is that the scumball is now dead.I hope it was a slow death.

How many hundreds of thousands like him lurking in Britain?
What? Dead people? Thousands, I should think, and many more in the process of decomposition.
 
#18
If our two Lithuanian 'friends' receive a custodial sentence of 12 months or more then they will be deported too; the relevant laws are in place and they would only have very limited grounds for an almost certainly unsuccessful appeal.
Why not send them to their mother country to serve the sentence? Fat chance I know, but I can dream.
 
#19
Why not send them to their mother country to serve the sentence? Fat chance I know, but I can dream.
According to the article, they were released immediately, as they were deemed to have spent sufficient time on remand. If that is the case, the powers that be should now be preparing their deportation papers - we live in hope.
Back on thread; it is a shame the other low life wasn't deported before he had the chance to commit murder. Others may say he has escaped justice by hanging himself, but personally, I would rather he was six foot under than wasting tax payers money occupying a UK cell. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
#20
Errm, forgive me if I am wrong, but lithuania became part of the EU in 2004, meaning free travel in Europe and the UK. They can just walk in after showing a passport. The national ID card would not be needed for a visitor.

How much money will it cost for this "investigation" to take place? Get on a plane, get off a plane, walk through the airport, sorted.
Correction. All someone would need is a National Identity Card issued by their HOST country.

I travelled on one from Slovakia - having to show my Passport leaving Slovakia, walked through Manchester on the Slovak ID... they were confused but never mind, left via Manchester for Prague, waved through, and took a train back to Slovakia... no checks. It used to take 24 hours to get a false Trvaly Pobyt in Slovakia... or Perm.Res translated... the Slovaks did not accept it as proof for leaving or entering their territority if you were not a native but other countries did, including erstwhile brethren, the Czechs.

However, almost walked through Liverpool t'other day because the Gate Keeper was late finishing his meal and the plane arrived early; on the other hand, I feel a lot of reliance with international travel is now going into the book online and furnish all details... Pass. No. pops up if of interest... of course, the fake IDs may foil this if 300 disgorge just from one plane. Other minds know better than me.

Final point. Stopped by the Czech Traffic Police for allowing too much petrol into the engine of good lady judge K's car... Interpol came back on me in, be it seconds or, a minute. I know that only a few years ago, such things in England had to go through the Branch.

I do not think it is the Border Agency or the Judiciary, it is the little Englander mentality that is the root cause of your problems. The info is out there, but you have to play with the Adults of Europe; when they want to be, they are very effective in what they do.

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