MP expenses - Must be an election soon

#1
Broon has announced a whole load of changes to the way Members can legally rob people.

Must be an election coming up soon.
 
#3
My MP is Lembit Opik. If you are reading this Lembit I suggest you vote in favour of the proposed package or you will lose my vote.

Not that I ever voted for you anyway.
 
#5
Not to be introduced in this pay year - I am sure. So no change until April next year when moost of Big G's crowd should already be out of a job.

Slime-ball Paul Flynn was on the radio earlier welcoming the move and saying it should all be linked with an overhaul of MP's second jobs. Almost an "Ashie- esque" attempt to shift the debate to more favourable ground.

They know they are on their way out and are now in proces of a full scorched-earth withdrawel policy. The budget will put in place time-bomb tax rises which will all kick in over the next 4 years of a Conservative term. More raids on pensions will hit all those who have saved for the future. All public services with the exception of welfare benefits will get hammered by vastly optimistic efficiency savings; departments won't be able to attain savvings so cuts will follow as sure as day follows night.
 
#6
Herrumph said:
Not to be introduced in this pay year - I am sure. So no change until April next year when moost of Big G's crowd should already be out of a job.

Slime-ball Paul Flynn was on the radio earlier welcoming the move and saying it should all be linked with an overhaul of MP's second jobs. Almost an "Ashie- esque" attempt to shift the debate to more favourable ground.

They know they are on their way out and are now in proces of a full scorched-earth withdrawel policy. The budget will put in place time-bomb tax rises which will all kick in over the next 4 years of a Conservative term. More raids on pensions will hit all those who have saved for the future. All public services with the exception of welfare benefits will get hammered by vastly optimistic efficiency savings; departments won't be able to attain savvings so cuts will follow as sure as day follows night.
Well that's the way it works Labour takes over an ecconomy that is going well then hands it back completely knackered a few years later. Mind you the period of strongest growth can be just after a rescession ends which may give 'Call me Dave' a decent chance of a second run. Mind you I do think about 7 years should be the max period in office for a PM, any longer and they get all delusional and lose the plot.
 
#7
On the face of it Mr Brown's proposals seem almost reasonable.
I note that there is no actual figure for the daily attendance allowance that is proposed, I presume MP's will atually get the same amount of money out of the taxpayer but without having to justify it at all?

Once again, Mr Brown almost sounds as if he means it. I will bet my last fiver (which is about all I'll have left at the rate Brown is pilfering my money) that this time next year MP's of all parties are better off than they are now. Any takers?
 

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#8
The man is an arrogant disgrace. Why does he think the electorate are happy that the PM and Ministers should have the right to decide what THERE expenses should be without any consultation with their employers. We should be sorting this matter.

Another whitewash excises that once the small print is found we will find that our dear little friends in Westminster do not lose out.
 
#9
The notorious Additional Costs allowance (a.k.a. free house from the taxpayer) is to be replaced by an 'attendance allowance' same as the Noble Lords get. This brings MPs into line with the rest of us. I received an attendance allowance when I was working. It was called wages. If I didn't turn up I didn't get paid. This should pi$$ off George Galloway and our friends in the north (Sinn Fein) as they never set foot in Parliament.

In addition, MPs will not be allowed to employ staff. Parliament will supply any staff that are required. It remains to be seen whether this will stop them 'employing' family members, paying them the entire staff allowance then taking on unpaid interns to do the office work.

I haven't been able to find out anything about the heavily subsidised bars and restaurants in Parliament where Honourable Members can scoff a 3 course, silver service steak dinner for 3 quid. Some of the bars are free! The rest are subsidised. It is an obscenity that a new entry soldier or sailor on £13k has to pay tax to fund free booze for people earning ten times his income.
 
#10
jagman said:
the daily attendance allowance that is proposed,
So we are going to pay them for going to work :? .

Give them a warrant. All their eating establishments are heavily subsidised by us the tax payer already. Why should we be expected to give them an allowance for meals as well?
 
#11
elovabloke said:
jagman said:
the daily attendance allowance that is proposed,
So we are going to pay them for going to work :? .

Give them a warrant. All their eating establishments are heavily subsidised by us the tax payer already. Why should we be expected to give them an allowance for meals as well?
Its a damn fine scam they've got going there isn't it?
Paid twice for one job, subsidised food and drink and bars you can smoke in (while the rest of the country must stand out in the rain)

I suppose Mr Brown gets to sound tough on the matter for a day or two.
Its all a bit Marie Antoinette really, so far detatched from the reality that the rest of us face in the real world.
 
#12
I have emailed all three leaders expressing my utter disgust that employees can establish allowances without any consultation with their employers.

Park up the outrage bus, I need something with 120mm on the end. Let’s see them stop that protesting in Parliament Square.
 
#13
So a review is commissioned into MP's expenses, to report sometime in the future, and so now MP's are expected on some proposals drawn out of a magic hat!

Agree that the inability of George Galloway to claim as he never turns up would be a great idea, but nothing much else to disuade the idea of a gravy train.

I see yesterday that it was revealed that The Speaker claimed £5766 in mileage allowances over the last two years for travel within his 10 square mile constituency - equivalent to 600 miles per month!! I thought he and his family always travelled by taxi?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...omes-under-attack-for-his-expense-claims.html

Odo
 

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#14
Odo_de_StAmand said:
So a review is commissioned into MP's expenses, to report sometime in the future, and so now MP's are expected on some proposals drawn out of a magic hat!

Agree that the inability of George Galloway to claim as he never turns up would be a great idea, but nothing much else to disuade the idea of a gravy train.

I see yesterday that it was revealed that The Speaker claimed £5766 in mileage allowances over the last two years for travel within his 10 square mile constituency - equivalent to 600 miles per month!! I thought he and his family always travelled by taxi?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...omes-under-attack-for-his-expense-claims.html

Odo
The Speaker of the House sets the example for others to follow.

Thus, Martin is THE greediest, most corrupt, most reprehensible dirt-bag of the entire crowd. Should we be surprised that the other oiks follow his lead?
 
#15
Now that we have general agreement that the system will change to something less open to suspicion of abuse, can we now institute and enquiry into expenses already paid to claw back those expenses which were not actually justifiable. In addition any ministers enjoying the use of grace and favour houses should repay all the ACA they have recieved since occupying thos grace and favourr houses, that is every bit as big a scam as Jaqui staying with her sister.
 
#16
maxi - not sure how much agreement we have on that here and hopefully the more astute MP's will be more in tune with the electorate and reject this out of hand.

Something fishy going on here or else the man would have waited for the commission to have reported back and asked for views from the electorate for jumping in with both feet.
 
#17
elovabloke said:
jagman said:
the daily attendance allowance that is proposed,
So we are going to pay them for going to work :? .

Give them a warrant. All their eating establishments are heavily subsidised by us the tax payer already. Why should we be expected to give them an allowance for meals as well?
No, no, no.

The meal allowance is a separate, 20 quid a day payment that is paid in addition to the restaurant subsidies and the £24k additional costs allowance. I don't believe that Gordon is proposing to touch this. Wouldn't want John Prescott throwing up baked beans when he's been used to throwing up fillet steak now would we?

That's effectively a £100 per week messing allowance. The allowance for soldiers is what? Twelve or thirteen quid a week? For kids who are entitled to free school meals 'cos their parents are skint, the allowance is £2.50 per week.

I stand corrected on the new attendance allowance. Apparently, it won't apply to Northern Irish MPs so Sinn Fein will still be able to claim £144k a year. Wouldn't want Gerry remembering where he hid the Semtex now would we?
 
#19
And to cap it all, Hazel Blears has strolled into Downing Street with the new proposals on a piece of paper under her arm. Snapped by a Daily Mail photographer. You couldn't make this sort of stuff up!

I won't post a link because if you open it, your eyes will be assaulted by the hideous image of the ginger midget gurning at the camera. I can't afford to fight the law suits
 

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