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#21
Radio 5 had the Independent body bloke for the military, he was told 1% and no more, so you really think it is Independent? where you a 16 year serviced gunner?
When it comes to public sector pay, all are equal, but the politicians are more equal.
 

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#23
Not sure what this has to do with anything. MPs salary is not decided by MPs . MPs didn’t ‘give themselves’ any pay rise.
Yes it ******* is
 
#29
The electorate vote for fools and then berate those who do not vote, blaming them for the mess the politicians they have voted in have created.
 
#30
The electorate vote for fools and then berate those who do not vote, blaming them for the mess the politicians they have voted in have created.

You have hit the nail on the head. Only those that do not vote can criticise. Those that vote, have only themselves to blame., you voted them in, you take the responsibility...... You Tube George carlins comments on the subject.
 
#31
It isn’t, and hasn’t been for 8 or 9 yrs. the amount that MPs’ pay rises by is decided by an independent review body appointed to do just that. It’s then voted on by MPs as to whether accept it or not.
Of course, it's an independent review board and the MPs don't influence the outcome at all,
it must be fair as they get to vote on the award, a independent review board also look at the
public sector pay, but they don't get to vote on the award.

MP award 11% , public sector 1% Yes you are right the MPs don't influence the outcome at all
 
#32
Of course, it's an independent review board and the MPs don't influence the outcome at all,
it must be fair as they get to vote on the award, a independent review board also look at the
public sector pay, but they don't get to vote on the award.

MP award 11% , public sector 1% Yes you are right the MPs don't influence the outcome at all
The way that MPs are paid is unusual partly because they aren’t employees in the same way that public sector staff are such as NHS, military etc In fact they aren’t employees at all. I disagree with it but until it changes....
 
#33
May & Corbyn a well known pair of Fcuktard leaders helping UKIP & Brexit Party win in the EU elections.
At the next General Election the Tory's will be wiped out, Labour will be close behind, the party which will do well. Step forward the Lib Dems, possibly a party to lead the country with Tory or Labour the now junior coalition party!
 
#34
May & Corbyn a well known pair of Fcuktard leaders helping UKIP & Brexit Party win in the EU elections.
At the next General Election the Tory's will be wiped out, Labour will be close behind, the party which will do well. Step forward the Lib Dems, possibly a party to lead the country with Tory or Labour the now junior coalition party!
Unlikely. For two reasons.

The proportion of the vote the Big two gets is significantly beyond that of all the rest, and would have to drop by orders of magnitude for such a scenario to occur. Nothing short of revolution, really. And those tend to involve much more than just voting - bullets not ballots.

Secondly - the Lib Dems have drifted from the principles of Liberalism and are now more socialist than central, which makes them less attractive as an option, at least for one side of the debate.

We are actually heading away from Party politics and towards fragmentation where no two parties dominate, potentially towards perpetual coalitions and consensus politics.
 
#35
Of course, it's an independent review board and the MPs don't influence the outcome at all,
it must be fair as they get to vote on the award, a independent review board also look at the
public sector pay, but they don't get to vote on the award.

MP award 11% , public sector 1% Yes you are right the MPs don't influence the outcome at all
That 11% was a 1 off about 4 years ago - not grasping the nettle earlier and sorting out MP's pay lead to the expenses fiasco. Since then its been the average public sector pay rise.
 
#38
Of course, it's an independent review board and the MPs don't influence the outcome at all,
it must be fair as they get to vote on the award, a independent review board also look at the
public sector pay, but they don't get to vote on the award.

MP award 11% , public sector 1% Yes you are right the MPs don't influence the outcome at all
Its to keep up with corruption in the private sector.
 
#39
Of course, it's an independent review board and the MPs don't influence the outcome at all,
it must be fair as they get to vote on the award, a independent review board also look at the
public sector pay, but they don't get to vote on the award.

MP award 11% , public sector 1% Yes you are right the MPs don't influence the outcome at all
MPs’ pay is linked to average rises in the public sector, as determined by the Office for National Statistics. Following reforms to the way MPs’ pay is calculated, the rise is automatic and not subject to a vote.
 
#40
MPs’ pay is linked to average rises in the public sector, as determined by the Office for National Statistics. Following reforms to the way MPs’ pay is calculated, the rise is automatic and not subject to a vote.
Abbott must have been doing the maths;) because their rise is always higher than the average
 

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