MOTOB tops himself with smack!

#1
Well guess what! Some MOTOB (Member Of The Old Bill) has ODed and curled his toes!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...argeted-drug-dealer-died-heroin-overdose.html

And if this isn't a thorough and blatant PC snowjob, then I'm the fückin' Lord-Mayor of Nagasaki!
Tests showed PC Pilling was not a drug addict. A verdict of death by misadventure was recorded.
Heroin is completely undetectable after 24 hours, even in longstanding addicts. So how can “they” ascertain that he wasn’t *cough* an addict? So your man was just, err .. sort of experimenting? Like you do when you're the Old Bill? Right!

This what I mean when I say (said) in a previous thread that the junkies hanging around the alleys represent, at the very most, about five percent of the addicted population. All the rest have, nominally, "honourable" occupations, like judges, architects, film producers, artists, MPs, city counsellors, consultants, company directors, lawyers, pop singers and what have you. And even the Old Bill.

As long as these very influential folks keep the smack market alive and buzzing, any "War on Drugs" is automatically doomed to failure.

MsG
 
#3
jagman said:
Very perculiar
I agree. Although "perculiar" is also peculiar. But whatever!

MsG
 
#4
I can well believe it, I have'nt across any smackhead bizzies but come across a few who like a line or a tablet, probably cos they're out ya system after 24 hours, when that uniform comes off, their no different to anyone else.
 
#5
jarrod248 said:
Bugsy said:
Well guess what! Some MOTOB (Member Of The Old Bill) has ODed and curled his toes!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...argeted-drug-dealer-died-heroin-overdose.html

And if this isn't a thorough and blatant PC snowjob, then I'm the fückin' Lord-Mayor of Nagasaki!
Tests showed PC Pilling was not a drug addict. A verdict of death by misadventure was recorded.
Heroin is completely undetectable after 24 hours, even in longstanding addicts. So how can “they” ascertain that he wasn’t *cough* an addict? So your man was just, err .. sort of experimenting? Like you do when you're the Old Bill? Right!

This what I mean when I say (said) in a previous thread that the junkies hanging around the alleys represent, at the very most, about five percent of the addicted population. All the rest have, nominally, "honourable" occupations, like judges, architects, film producers, artists, MPs, city counsellors, consultants, company directors, lawyers, pop singers and what have you. And even the Old Bill.

As long as these very influential folks keep the smack market alive and buzzing, any "War on Drugs" is automatically doomed to failure.

MsG
Heroin is detectable for longer than 24 hours typically 3 days in urine but things such as hair strand tests have longer detectability.
Ode-fückin'-ear! The Jarrrod fella trying to be more clever than he is.

I'll say it again: smack is completely, that's completely, undetectable in the human body after 24 hours. It does not impinge on the structures/proteins responsible for the formation of human hair and is thus undetectable in them. Nuff sedd?

MsG
 
#6
Bugsy said:
jagman said:
Very perculiar
I agree. Although "perculiar" is also peculiar. But whatever!

MsG
Picky :D
Not being a typing genius I have an inability to look at the screen at the same time as tapping the keyboard, also a tendancy not to proof read my posts on an internet forum either!

Back to the odd bit, if the article is correc then it seems very out of character for Pilling to be playing with drugs.
Stranger things have happened I suppose but is does seem "peculiar"
 
#7
Bugsy said:
jarrod248 said:
Heroin is detectable for longer than 24 hours typically 3 days in urine but things such as hair strand tests have longer detectability.
Ode-fückin'-ear! The Jarrrod fella trying to be more clever than he is.

I'll say it again: smack is completely, that's completely, undetectable in the human body after 24 hours. It does not impinge on the structures/proteins responsible for the formation of human hair and is thus undetectable in them. Nuff sedd?

MsG
You're wrong. A single dose of diacetylmorphine of a reasonable purity is detectable in urine for up to 48hrs. A very high dose, or a chronic user who recently stopped, is detectable for around five days. This includes testing for the major metabolite 6-monoacetylmorphine.

Opiates are detectable in hair; both heroin and the 6-MAM metabolite. An average hair follicle can cover nearly three months; body hair even longer due to speed of growth.
 

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#9
CQMS said:
So, heroin would be the drug of choice in order to get past CDT on Monday morning.
Dunno. But smack is more popular in nick because the tests they use mean it cant be detected after 24 hours. Plus of course, smack is more fun in nick. If you are in China White, I'd go for Charlie. If I did drugs. Which I dont. Being a Methodist.

This case is sad, but it goes to show, the Flith shouldnt handle drugs.
 

TheIronDuke

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#10
jarrod248 said:
Yes it can be detected after 24 hours.
What, if they cut your hair? Cutting your hair infringes your human rights. And we can be having that, can we?

Drink a litre of pineapple juice four hours after you do the smack. They cant touch you. Sorted. Stand on me Bud.
 
#11
TheIronDuke said:
This case is sad, but it goes to show, the Flith shouldnt handle drugs.
I used to know a girl who was going to become a special constable because " It sounded like fun " She smoked skunk every night and got wrecked on cocaine at the weekends . I'm sure she'll go far as a special constable
 
#12
1-4 days is the commonly reseached time for finding opiates in the body. In my experience too many people believe what their mates said etc. detection methods have moved on abit in the last 10 years
 
#14
Bugsy said:
Tests showed PC Pilling was not a drug addict. A verdict of death by misadventure was recorded.
Am I the only one to snigger at his name? Concidering what he's gone and done. :D
 

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#15
canteen_cowboy said:
1-4 days is the commonly reseached time for finding opiates in the body. In my experience too many people believe what their mates said etc. detection methods have moved on abit in the last 10 years
Detection methods is, what detection methods does.

1-4 days you say?

1 day is 24 hours you will find? Like I said.

And whats your methodology? Urine sample? I could give you half a dozen ways to get round that, but I wont.

Swab? Spare me.

Or do you intend to start trying to hack at my haircut?

my experience too many people believe what gifted amateurs said etc.
 
#16
ABrighter2006 said:
Are the bizzies subject to CDT in the same way as members of the armed forces?
sort of. You can be tested if you drive, use firearms, or supervise people who do.

This catches nearly everyone. The MPS also test new recruits before joining.

Drugs testing is intelligence led, persoanlly i think they should just come in and do it to everyone on monday early turn.

From my previous job i also know that heroin is detectable in hair for many weeks after use.
 
#17
TheIronDuke said:
canteen_cowboy said:
1-4 days is the commonly reseached time for finding opiates in the body. In my experience too many people believe what their mates said etc. detection methods have moved on abit in the last 10 years
Detection methods is, what detection methods does.

1-4 days you say?

1 day is 24 hours you will find? Like I said.

And whats your methodology? Urine sample? I could give you half a dozen ways to get round that, but I wont.

Swab? Spare me.

Or do you intend to start trying to hack at my haircut?

my experience too many people believe what gifted amateurs said etc.
your a professional in the drugs world then yourself?
 
#18
Trotsky said:
ABrighter2006 said:
Are the bizzies subject to CDT in the same way as members of the armed forces?
sort of. You can be tested if you drive, use firearms, or supervise people who do.

This catches nearly everyone. The MPS also test new recruits before joining.

Drugs testing is intelligence led, persoanlly i think they should just come in and do it to everyone on monday early turn.

From my previous job i also know that heroin is detectable in hair for many weeks after use.
Cheers Trotsky - agree with the Monday morning comment.

As for the "intelligence led" basis for testing, I think we could safely assume that a number don't come up on the intelligence radar!
 
#19
ABrighter2006 said:
Are the bizzies subject to CDT in the same way as members of the armed forces?
Yep - I've been CDT'd more times by the rozzers than the forces ever did.

I would be interested to see the cause of this fella going bandit and starting to use as contrary to what some like to believe drugs use is not a popular pass time bobbies.
 
#20
Closet_Jibber said:
ABrighter2006 said:
Are the bizzies subject to CDT in the same way as members of the armed forces?
Yep - I've been CDT'd more times by the rozzers than the forces ever did.

I would be interested to see the cause of this fella going bandit and starting to use as contrary to what some like to believe drugs use is not a popular pass time bobbies.
...

People who knew him thought he was uber cop .... god knows what was going on behind the facade, its all very tragic
 

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