Mother and Son Cancer Treatment Dilemma

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  1. I really feel for this mum as do all parents, wether to have her son go through intense Radiotherepy (RT).
    I myself have had this 4 years ago and still have huge problems from the treatment, I was 49 when those six letters were spoken to me and at the time was a fit stocky man and thats the only thing that helped me through. Four other unlucky souls that went through the same treatment as myself are sadley not here. I chose not to research into the side effects because it frightened me, it has been and still is a long hard lonely road for anyone to have to travel down and my heart really goes out to anyone who have or are still travelling this road.

    I would not like to be in the Judges Chair on this one or anyone who has to make that decision on behalf of the child, any RT to the head area does have serious issues on your quality of life, its a big struggle for a healthy adult so I can relate to this unfortunate mother with her fears. What ever the out come on is with relation to treatment, I really hope it goes well.

    Sorry fOr anY spelling or grammer issues its taken me a while to write, my memory is not wot is was.
  2. What mother and son? A link would be handy.
  3. Ones an unpleasant treatment option that might work
    Crystals and sunbeams while more pleasant is. 100% death sentence.
  4. AFAIK,the mother is a delusional loon who thinks that the best advice the doctors can give isn't worth a fart compared to her innate knowledge "as a mother" on the restorative powers of dandelion & burdock. I pity the poor little bugger caught in the middle of this and have little but contempt for her,"as a mother".
  5. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    Homeopathy is a nice idea, full of good intentions, etc, but with only one problem - it's complete bollocks. Time and again it's been proved beyond any possible doubt that it's useless, yet because of some gullible twats, we even waste NHS money on it.

    as for the Mother here - if she wants her son to have a chance of recovery, then conventional might just work. Otherwise - it's down to prayer, which is more effective than Homeopathy, as at least it works sometimes!
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  6. Tbf she named the child NEON release the social work hounds
  7. Trans-sane

    Trans-sane LE Book Reviewer

    That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E - YouTube

    As for the kid being named neon, if he gets the the radiotherapy, he'll be glowing like it. My coat? Why thankyou, I need a walk
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  8. God has been good to His children by putting hundreds of natural substances in Mother Nature which can help all cancer patients in many different ways!! Mother Nature's cancer treatments are called "natural cancer treatments" or "alternative cancer treatments."

    For example, the late Dr. William D. Kelley, a dentist by training, used alternative cancer treatments to treat more than 33,000 cancer patients. He used special diets, proteolytic enzymes, and other natural substances. Dr. Kelley was able to cure more than 90% of the cancer patients who went to him instead of using chemotherapy, radiation and surgery!!

    Compare Dr. Kelley's cure rate of 90% to the overall 5-year cure rate of less than 3% of orthodox medicine (Journal of Oncology, 2004, volume 16, pp. 449-560)!!

    What is wrong with the medical community? Orthodox medicine could easily have a painless, 90% cure rate on newly diagnosed cancer patients (by using the highly documented Kelley protocol), yet they continue to use treatments which have less than a 3% cure rate!!

    Don't believe the nonsense that the pharmaceutical industry, medical establishment, large cancer "charities" and our federal government are "looking" for new cancer cures. The medical establishment could have a 90% cure rate for cancer tomorrow if they really wanted to cure cancer. But they never want to cure cancer because that would cut into their profits.

    "Everyone should know that the 'war on cancer' is largely a fraud."
    Linus Pauling, PhD, Two Time Nobel Prize Winner
    Why a 3% Cure Rate?

    Treating diseases as "chronic diseases" is a lot more profitable than curing diseases! Curing cancer patients safely with natural products would dramatically reduce the profits of the medical community and the pharmaceutical industry. Chemotherapy, for example, is highly profitable to the medical community and pharmaceutical industry, but does far more harm than good to cancer patients (with rare exceptions)!!

    "In 1975, the respected British medical journal Lancet reported on a study which compared the effect on cancer patients of (1) a single chemotherapy, (2) multiple chemotherapy, and (3) no treatment at all. 'No treatment' proved a significantly better policy for patients' survival and for quality of remaining life.'"
    Barry Lynes, The Healing of Cancer - The Cures - the Cover-ups and the Solution Now! - page 9
    With this in mind, why does the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) routinely approve worthless chemotherapy drugs and persecute those who use effective natural treatments for cancer?? The reason is that the FDA has been the private police force of the pharmaceutical industry for several decades!! For example, the FDA has shut down many cancer clinics which were curing cancer and has shut down many vendors of products which could cure cancer!!

    But by far the main job of the FDA is to rig their regulations to make it impossible for any cancer treatment from Mother Nature to be "approved" by the FDA. In this way natural medicine cannot compete with the highly profitable and worthless chemotherapy and other highly profitable patented drugs.

    For example, when the FDA intentionally declares all highly effective natural cancer treatments to be "unproven" the totally corrupt medical labor union (i.e. the American Medical Association - AMA) can prohibit its members from curing cancer patients with these "unproven" cancer treatments.

    Yet many of these "unproven" natural cancer treatments are painless and have a 30 times higher cure rate than the "proven" orthodox cancer treatments!!

    The truth is that the FDA is effectively an appendage of the pharmaceutical industry. The FDA only cares about what Big Pharma (the pharmaceutical industry) wants and they couldn't care less whether cancer patients survive their cancer!! Ditto for Congress and the American Medical Association (AMA). The AMA jumped in bed with the newly emerging pharmaceutical industry in about 1907, but the AMA had been corrupt long before then!!

    Congress and the "medical schools" sold-out to the pharmaceutical industry shortly after the pharmaceutical-funded Flaxner Report was released in 1910.

    Because of the FDA and AMA; Big Pharma makes billions of dollars a year selling dangerous and worthless drugs which are approved by the FDA and are then used by the AMA members.

    But the most important ally of the pharmaceutical industry is neither the FDA nor the AMA, it is the media.

    Because of the media, when a person is diagnosed with cancer they cannot run fast enough to their doctor to get filled with chemotherapy, radiation and surgery. Television show after television show glorifies the medical profession and because of this, medical doctors are exactly where people go when they get sick.

    "No one understood better than Stalin that the true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade, but to produce a uniform pattern of public utterance in which the first trace of unorthodox thought immediately reveals itself as a jarring dissonance."
    Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives, Alan Bullock
    By using the constant repetition of seeing "medical doctors" on television, people are conditioned (the "uniform pattern of public utterance") to believe that anyone who is not a "medical doctor" must be a quack (the "jarring dissonance")!!

    The average American is so brainwashed they think that God is a quack!!

    The media uses a tactic that can be compared to an iceberg. You hear precisely the things they want you to hear over and over and over and over again, to create the "uniform pattern of public utterance." The things they do not want you to hear (e.g. that there are hundreds of cures for cancer in Mother Nature) are very carefully buried beneath the water where you cannot see or hear them!! This is called "blacklisting." Nothing is blacklisted more methodically than natural cures for cancer.

    You simply cannot believe all of the things that are buried beneath the water that the general public knows nothing about. The media is very adept at making you think you are seeing the whole iceberg, when in fact you are only seeing a small part of the iceberg and much of what you do see is expertly designed to control your thinking!!

    And when you trust your television
    What you get is what you got
    Cause when they own the information
    Oh, they can bend it all they want
    John Mayer: "Waiting on the World to Change"
    The goal of the media is not to inform, but to control. Four gigantic corporations (which are owned by multi-billionaires), plus the federal government, control virtually 100% of what you see and hear in the media. "Freedom of speech" was dead and cremated even before the discovery of television. I personally remember seeing television shows glorifying medical doctors when television first came out in the 1950s!!

    The pharmaceutical industry pays the media well for their loyalty. Their payment is in the form of advertising fees.

    The skill of the media is why virtually every human being absolutely refuses to believe that God is smart enough to cure cancer!! How ironic: God designed all of human DNA, but scientists only understand about 3% of human DNA after more than 60 years of studying it!! Yet the general public believes that God is not smart enough to cure cancer!!

    Need I even mention the massive number of things that the FDA, Big Pharma and the Department of Agriculture do to make you sick so you will need drugs? The percent of people today who are diagnosed with cancer today is about 10 times higher than it was in 1900.

    The FDA approves things like mercury in vaccinations, aluminum in pots and pans (which causes dementia), aluminum in vaccinations, trans-fatty acids in foods (which causes type 2 diabetes and many other health conditions), aspartame and high fructose corn syrup in drinks, etc.

    And thanks to the Department of Agriculture we have toxic poisons sprayed on our crops, we have genetically modified foods (GMO) and every year the soil has less and less trace minerals, ad nauseum.

    Next, let us talk about how the medical monopoly contributes to the dismal cure rate of cancer.

    Can Cancer Be Cured?

    A key part of the great deception is that Big Medicine wants to convince the general public that there will never be a cure for cancer!! One tactic Big Medicine uses is to convince the general public that cancer is caused by DNA damage and that a cure for cancer is 50 years away!!

    A cure for cancer has always been 50 years away and a cure for cancer will always be 50 years away!!

    Here are three of the flaws with their DNA claim:

    First, if you can safely target and kill cancer cells (as Dr. Kelley did by letting the immune system kill the cancer cells), what difference does it make that the cancer cells have DNA damage? The cancer cells are dead!!

    As another example, a natural molecule called laetrile (a molecule found in apple seeds, apricot seeds, etc.) can target and kill cancer cells. Dr. Philip Binzel, M.D., and Dr. John Richardson, M.D. both used liquid laetrile by I.V. to cure cancer.

    In the 1920s Johanna Brandt had a 100% cure rate using purple grapes (i.e. the Brandt Grape Cure). Her treatment was ignored by the medical community long before chemotherapy was introduced. It is now known that purple grapes have at least 12 molecules that can safely kill cancer cells.

    Many people have been cured of cancer by drinking a quart of carrot juice (mixed with a little beet juice) every day and having a healthier diet. And so on.

    However, those cancer patients who have had chemotherapy and/or radiation will likely need some of the newer protocols that are more potent than the older protocols.

    Second, did you know that cancer cells can be reverted into normal cells? This would be impossible with today's technology if DNA damage caused cancer, but it is true and it is another evidence that cancer is not caused by DNA damage.

    Dr. Royal Rife, a microbiologist, was reverting cancer cells into normal cells in the 1930s, long before the discovery of DNA. Dr. Rife also had a 100% cure rate. The AMA (American Medical Association) wanted his cure shut down and offered to buy him out. Dr. Rife refused their "offer," so the FDA came in and shut him down. Rife's technology has now been replicated using modern electronics, as will be discussed below.

    Third, while it is true that cancer cells have DNA damage, that is not what causes cancer!! The real cause of cancer was discovered in 1890 by William Russell (1852-1940). Also, Dr. Rife, in the 1930s, knew exactly what caused cancer and this knowledge led him to his 100% cure rate. Both of these discoveries were made long before the discovery of DNA.

    The Dr. Virginia Livingston, M.D. team of researchers, who knew about DNA, were the first to describe what was causing the DNA damage!! They discovered that the DNA damage cannot occur until after the cell is cancerous.

    Cancer is caused by a very special type of microbe that blocks the cell's production of ATP molecules in two different ways. Dr. Livingston's researchers saw this pleomorphic microbe inside the cell nucleus where it could damage the cell's DNA. The truth is that the cell's DNA damage is caused by the same microbe which causes the cancer!!

    The fact is that even if orthodox medicine could "fix" the DNA damage, that would not cure cancer.

    Independent Cancer Research Foundation, Inc. (ICRF) researchers discovered how the microbes block the production of ATP and they have demonstrated, as did Dr. Rife in the 1930s, that if you can target and kill all of the microbes, that are inside the cancer cells, the cancer cells will revert into normal cells!! Dr. Rife used gentle electromedicine to kill these microbes, but the ICRF researchers used DMSO and chlorine dioxide. The ICRF is one of the very rare natural cancer treatment research organizations.

    My article on this website: "What Causes Cancer" goes into more detail about what causes cancer. Click the "What Causes Cancer" link on the left side-bar (the "left side-bar" is the column of links on the left side of most web pages) or see:
    What Causes Cancer

    The media, the movie industry, the FDA, the medical establishment, all large cancer charities, all medical schools, all state governments, Congress, several government agencies (e.g. the NIH, NCI, FCC, etc.), etc. have "sold out" the cancer patients to get a piece of Big Pharma's massive money pie!! "Modern medicine" is like a giant octopus, with the pharmaceutical industry in the center.

    So where does all of this corruption in the media, FDA, AMA, etc. leave cancer patients? In 97% of the cases it leaves them dead. The "Golden Rule" has been burned and buried.

    Now you know why orthodox medicine has a 3% cure rate for cancer instead of a 90% cure rate!! In fact, 3% is the worldwide cure rate for cancer because the pharmaceutical industry is a worldwide entity. Only one country in the world has "Freedom of Choice in Medicine" (Ecuador).

    Natural Cancer Treatments

    So what is the truth about natural cancer treatments? Alternative cancer treatment researchers have refined and combined Mother Nature's treatments and now have stronger treatments than what Dr. Kelley had.

    However, it must be emphasized that the cure rate of "newly diagnosed cancer patients" (who have not had chemotherapy) is about twice the cure rate of "advanced cancer patients" (who have had extensive chemotherapy and/or they have a very aggressive cancer). The gap is getting smaller, but it is still very significant.

    Not even Dr. Kelley had a 90% cure rate on cancer patients who had been sent home to die by orthodox medicine before they went to him.

    While most natural cancer treatments today include some nutritional parts of the Kelley protocol; the development of newer nutritional products, newer tactics, newer discoveries about why it is so difficult to cure certain types of cases, the development of very gentle electromedicine, etc. have allowed modern researchers to surpass the results of Dr. Kelley.

    But even those cancer patients who do not survive can have a higher quality of life, their life can be extended significantly, they can be in less pain, and so on. Every year alternative cancer treatments get better and better.

    Having said all of that, there are rare situations where the services of orthodox medicine are essential during an alternative cancer treatment. For example, if a tumor on the pancreas is pressing against the bile duct it is critical to seek medical help immediately to keep the patient alive. Do not depend on alternative cancer treatments to quickly shrink dangerous tumors!!
  9. Don't be stupid.
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  10. Go on... Oh wait I don't think you could say much more other than this
  11. mercurydancer

    mercurydancer LE Book Reviewer

    mrjohndoe, I suspect a sock puppet but I'll play.

    100% cure rates? I dont think there has ever been such a thing for any treatment let alone for cancer. I could ask about definition of cure, such as 5 year survival rates.

    Homeopathic remedies may have some constituents of cancer drugs, but are in such small quantities that they are almost
    completely useless.

    I just giggle at the suggestion of a conspiracy to ensure that pharmaceutical companies prevent efficient drugs from being used. Big Pharma may charge exceeding amounts for drugs that actually work, but to prevent development goes over the line into silliness. There are more than enough honest doctors who genuinely want to rid the world of cancer, and devote their lives doing so. To think that they could all be fooled and that all anti-cancer drugs are prevented from being made? Sillier than silly.
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  12. Would this be the same Dr Kelley (who originally qualified as a dentist) and whose supporting data failed to include those 'patients' who died within the first 12 to 18 months of a coffee enema-based alternative regimen?

    The same Dr Kelley who treated Steve McQueen after the latter had been informed that his cancer was terminal? The same Dr Kelley who managed to prolong McQueen's life by a staggering 3 months?
  13. They couldn't use or make effective drugs as they still don't know what causes cancer yet (???) Even thou billions over many decades has gone into finding a "cure" how about finding the cause. I didn't say a 100% cure rate was possible, however a much higher one could be achieved using diet, herbal (ie b17 ect) and other things like P.D.T, HIFU, IV vit c ect. Also using sodium bicarb or mistletoe injected into tumours works. Most herbal drugs would be hard to patent so no money for big pharma. Also chemo & other drugs used with it and for side effects costs thousands per treatment.
  14. Mr_Fingerz

    Mr_Fingerz LE Book Reviewer

    @mrjondoe "cut'n'paste" is a wonderful thing, but you just wore out its welcome in this thread. When you have had words with Dr Science come back and talk to us.
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