Blues_Cav said:walt_of_the_walts said:Bat_Crab said:Gun_Empty said:BC - You must work in APC!
I don't, but I believe it is now part of the civil servant dress regs that you must possess one of the following:
- 'Comedy' cartoon tie.
- Slightly too short trousers.
- Elasticated waist trousers.
- Pony tail.
- Slip on shoes.
- Collar dandruff.
- Scraggy 'two-week' beard with crumbs in.
- Body odour.
Where I work, thats the management down to a tee.
We, The managed, wear uniforms.
We, the managed, will be on strike as our union balloted us, we voted and its a democratic decision which we will respect, whether we like it or not. (incidentally, I did not get a ballot paper due to a balls-up, but will respect the decision made by my colleagues)
Those scruffy management fcukers will be scabbing and trying to maintain a 'presence' on the day, despite being in the same union as us.
Anyway, it tells Blair, Brown, and Neu Arbeit what we think of their downsizing policies, which are only in place to bribe the electorate with money saved before the next election.
Too much spent on civil servants? Arent the army are civil servants of a sort too, just with a somewhat different contract. happy with your level of funding? Pay? Equipment? Career prospects?
PLEASE never link the Army to the Civil Service like that again. This HQ is full of Civil Servants who spend all day talking on the phone to family. Try to complain about the waste of time and miss use of military funds and get a bollocking! Oh and of course they take 3 days out of the office to attend talks about strike action and still get paid for it!
I can't comment on the MOD, never having worked there, but you probably have a point. Yes there are civil servants who do fcuk all day in day out, and there are others often in the same departments who work 60hrs a week whilst only being paid for 36hrs, suffer nervous breakdowns and end up medically retired on a pittance. I have been at both extremes, and currently enjoying doing just enough, bordering on bugger all,(much of my job is simply manning a control point or being a keyholder/storeman on a 24/7 shift basis) but I've been in other sections where I simply could not stop for a moment to 'consider the lilies of the field' and coped by downing litres of cheap vodka at the weekends. and that was when I was on the lowest pay at the lowest rank. Shit rolls downhill!
Its usually down to poor management, and their failure to secure proper resources for their staff. I've had managers for whom it is considered 'a badge of honour' to run a national agency on 2 staff, 3 bits of string and a bicycle!, whilst bullying their staff into topping themselves, turning them into alcoholics and generally ruining their physical and mental health. I have lost 3 colleagues to suicide because of the job, and know of several others who have (or are suspected to have) attempted it. This is not a good state of affairs and is hardly commensurate with a lot of layabouts who 'don't know how lucky they are etc;'.
I am not trying to equate the CS with the forces at all, but I am trying to point out the similar nature of the problems in the two organisations. Large organisations do tend not to be absolutely perfect employers for everybody
Is there no poor management in the Army then?
It not all tea and biccies in the CS anymore. That went out with flares, platform shoes and the Bay City Rollers. Try running to the union and they more often than not don't want to know and are inneffective in many govt offices anyway.