Most Europeans want immigration ban from Muslim-majority countries

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  1. Doh.. Yes
  2. Aim it at the American bible belt and you will get more than enough money.

    Getting it built is the tricky part.
  3. They simply do not allow it. One of the principle reasons why Islam is unacceptable to many.

    It's intolerance of other religions and it declared aim to reign supreme globally peddling an outdated and somewhat vicious religious/ political belief.
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  4. Yeah but you can get a pint of milk at 11 pm from Mohammed's corner shop, so all the rape and death is worth it.
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  5. And Mohammed in the corner shop had no issues with selling me alcohol as a 14 year old either.
  6. And we know where it went from there......:donut:

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  7. Most corner shops are run by Asians rather than Arabs, religion more likely to be Hindu and he to be Patel rather than Mohamed.

    As a rider some are Palistani, and Moslem.
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  8. Pakistani & Muslim around Leeds/Bradford & Brum (Sikhs run off-licences). Indian & Hindu in Leicester.
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  9. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    They will go down well with the Wee Frees :D
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  10. I travel to Loughborough, and Leicester on occasion, which calls itself the UK's most diverse city in competition with all the rest, for that accolade and for "Excellence in Diversity". It's hard to see how immigration and diversity will stop when the world and his dog pushes it, so I don't get stressed about it and nobody would listen if I did. There is a large Muslim community in multi-Asian Leicester, and dozens of mosques, well over 70 and at least double the total of Hindu temples. Several Islamic bookshops, general stores, and clothing shops in Leicester. A large proportion of the Newsagents seem to be Asian, normalised by now and very few care. I've met a few nutters and some Hindus get annoyed about Muslims, then again right-wing fascists in other communities don't help anybody.

    Hindus started coming in the 1950s. Kids have grown up with Asians (and Asian teachers) in the county since the 1940s and the British Nationality Act 1948. "Five thousand" Ugandan Asians started to settle in Leicestershire in the early 1970s (Idi Amin's refugees/displaced Africans). They've had plenty of time to adjust.

    Several British Islamic Stores in Loughborough and Leicester, and several online retailers. Indian people settled in Belgrave and Melton Rd a very long time ago, they have scores of shops. That's not meant to be pejorative, and on the whole it's been peaceful and well-managed although all nationalities tend to cluster. The proportion of Muslims living in Leicester is claimed to be 20 per cent in 2017, but take that with a large pinch of salt because nobody knows the true demographics. Racial tensions seem to be manageable but gang- and violent crimes are obviously a problem. Otherwise most people get along fine.

    Going by council and police stats: high rates of anti-social behaviour and sex crimes in Leicestershire. Gangs were banned from areas of Leicester after "revenge attacks" this January, running through the streets with poles, bottles and sticks. Also immigration crimes nationwide have affected Leicester: several Indian nationals were arrested, but there were also people from Pakistan, Afghanistan, China and Albania.

    Immigration might be a hot topic (and numbers are falling) but business and government, along with economics and the education sector, and sections of the mainstream media, want it. "The Home Office is making profits of up to 800% on immigration applications from families, many of whom are eligible to live in the UK but are turned down on technicalities and forced to reapply – and pay again." The numbers of visas issued to non-EU students also seems to have risen. As for Muslims, imho unless they're killers, radicals or extremists preaching hate, or proselytizing, I don't care.
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  11. Le_addeur_noir

    Le_addeur_noir On ROPs

    And Mohammed's corner shop probably has a good choice of kiddie porn under the counter, and is evading UK taxes in every way possible.

    Just saying, like.
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  12. Despite the implication of the headline there aren't thousands of 5 year old girls wearing hijabs to primary school - just that thousands (or < 160*) of primary schools have added the hijab to the dress code options.

    Others have pointed out that Muslim girls of primary school age don't wear the hijab.
    All the Independant have done is look at school dress codes online and made a headline

    * They have extrapolated less than 160 of 800 schools they looked up (less than 18% of 800) and turned that into thousands across the country

    Thousands of state primary schools are allowing girls as young as five to wear the Muslim religious headscarf as part of approved school uniform, a Sunday Times survey has revealed.

    The rise of the classroom hijab has alarmed female Muslim campaigners, church leaders and academics. They say it is divisive, sexualises young girls because it is traditionally not worn until puberty, and should be “fiercely resisted”.

    Ofsted, the schools watchdog, said there was “growing concern” about the trend. Inspectors are investigating whether head teachers have come under pressure from parents or religious leaders to change uniform regulations.

    A senior Ofsted source said: “While it is for schools to determine their uniform rules in accordance with the law, there is growing concern about the hijab appearing in a primary school uniform list. We are looking at whether there is evidence that schools are facing external pressure to adapt their policies.”

    The Sunday Times survey showed nearly a fifth (18%) of 800 primary schools — including Church of England primaries — surveyed in 11 regions of England now list the hijab as part of their uniform policy. Across England’s 17,000 primary schools the figure is likely to run into thousands.In Birmingham 46% of 72 primary schools whose websites were checked by The Sunday Times included the hijab in their written online uniform policy. In Tower Hamlets 34% of 68 primaries had an online headscarf policy and in Luton the figure was 36%.

    But in other areas with large Muslim communities the practice has not taken hold. Only 6% of 77 primary schools surveyed in Leicester included the hijab in the online list of approved items, and in Manchester 8 out of 133 schools did so (6%). The proportion was the same for 50 primaries in Blackburn.

    In six of the 11 areas surveyed, some Church of England primaries also allowed the hijab within their uniform policy on their websites. Most schools list it as an optional item.

    Campaigners want the government to issue guidance making it clear the hijab has no place in primary schools and for inspectors to report on those that allow it.

    Gina Khan, a children’s rights campaigner in Birmingham, said: “Schools are allowing it because they are afraid of being called Islamophobic and they have been told that this is a religious garment — but they need to support Muslim girls to have free choices, not to be set apart from other children.”

    Amina Lone, a Muslim former Labour parliamentary candidate, said: “In an Islamic context, the hijab is commonly understood as being for females after they reach the age of puberty. There are very few Muslims who would say a child should be covered.”

    Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, said the formalisation of the wearing of the headscarf for young girls in primary schools should be “fiercely resisted”.

    He added: “Personally, I am against the wearing of hijabs altogether. I believe we are in a secular western country largely influenced by the Christian faith.”

    Michael Nazir-Ali, former Bishop of Rochester, said: “I see no necessity to have a hijab listed within a school uniform policy. If there are difficulties, they can be negotiated on a case-by-case basis between parents and schools. By including it in a policy, parents may come under pressure from religious leaders — who might say you are not a good Muslim if you do not do it.”

    But Toby Howarth, the Bishop of Bradford, said young girls often wanted to “look like their mums” and that the inclusion of the hijab was appropriate even within the uniform policy of a Church of England primary.

    “The British policy is not to make too big a deal of it, but simply to say you have to wear the right colour,” he said. “This is a matter of religious identity not sexualisation.”

    The former education secretary Nicky Morgan said it was important not to get “too hung up” about school uniforms: “Hijabs in primary school is a debate for the Muslim community to have. Is it required by the Koran?”

    The Department for Education said uniform policies were for schools to decide, adding: “If a school decided to allow a pupil to wear a burqa, that would be up to the school.”

    Additional reporting: Imogen Cooper and Aron Keller

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  13. Did you expect them to go to every school in the country to check the numbers?
  14. Funny how survey numbers are a load of rubbish if they don't fit your own narrative but perfectly acceptable scientific proof if they do.
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