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Mosquitos and Spitfires. CGI or Not?

#1
Apparently it is. if so, can we have more please?


And as an afterthought, if this is what they can do CGI now with WWII aircraft, then the new Dambusters film (if it ever gets completed!) should be amazing!
 
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#2
I thought that I would be able to see if it was CGI but I could not tell. I beleive that there is only one Mosquito that is airworthy so with there being a few in the air at the same time then I can only assume that it is CGI, and yes if they ever get the Dambusters film of the gound then it should be something well worth waiting for.
 
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PrinceAlbert

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#3
It is very well produced. A couple of bit looks a bit "CGIeee" but that's to be expected. The future of film making......
 
#4
If you want to spot CGI just look at how smooth everything runs. If they were real the engines would splutter and the wings would wobble. Still though I would love to see a new Dambusters movie once they don't try to make it more commercial with a love plot and less realism in the difficulties of the flight.
 

jim24

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#6
the Mossie's look awfully clean, not a speck of oil or soot around the exhausts, and no grass or mud splatter on aircraft that are landing on a grass strip,?????
 
#7
The "photography" is far too perfect for it to be real. If you take "Battle of Britain" or perhaps "Memphis Belle" as the epitome of aviation filming, then the difference becomes apparent.

Quite incredible piece of work though....
 
#10
Fantastic Happy B,
Just what enthusiasts will do never ceases to amaze me.
Memory says that Araldite was the original glue devoloped to join up the 'Woodwork'.
I remember some tale that Focke Wulf built a German Mossei equivalent.
It fell apart in flight for altho a good design the Glue could not be replacated.

john
 
#11
There are no flying Mosquitoes at the moment after the tragic crash of the last one in around 96. Ironically, when that one crashed, it was planned to be donated to the BBMF; a Lanc, Spitfire, Hurricane and Mossie formation...now that would have been something to see!

The Germans tried many times to replicate the Mossie's performance, versatility and ease of construction but never managed it much to Goering's frustration. The Ta-154 Moskito was the nearest they got to doing it but as suggested, they never cracked the adhesive. They had similar problems with the He-162 jet fighter, the wooden wing tips of which had a tendency to delaminate and break apart at high speed (this characteristic also accounted for at least one RAF test pilot post war).

The Kiwi Mossie project is looking good however so fingers crossed.

Regards,
MM
 
#15
If you want to spot CGI just look at how smooth everything runs. If they were real the engines would splutter and the wings would wobble. Still though I would love to see a new Dambusters movie once they don't try to make it more commercial with a love plot and less realism in the difficulties of the flight.
Wing wobble and spluttering can be found in some new flight sims. Many of these are near rmovie quality on modern home PCs with graphics cards. All this is doable. I watched a kids film Zootopia (aka Zootropolis) and Disney has gone beyond Pixar in animating fur and hair in the main character Judy Hopps. It's very impressive and quite beautiful


And this weekend I will be mostly bombing virtual cockneys in my He111 in this one

 
#16
The Ta-154 Moskito was the nearest they got to doing it but as suggested, they never cracked the adhesive. They had similar problems with the He-162 jet fighter, the wooden wing tips of which had a tendency to delaminate and break apart at high speed (this characteristic also accounted for at least one RAF test pilot post war).
This happened when they demonstrated it in front of LW top brass. And they still ordered it into production!

Desperate times.

I sat in the cockpit of the He162 that was at St Athan in the 80s. Terrifyingly cheap and roughly built, it had a build quality and instrumentation only slightly better than the gliders I flew in the air cadets.
 
#18
What is truly lovely about that clip, particularly in the shot looking forward through the Spitfires, is the impression of whole groups of aircraft heading downtown looking for trouble. We see singletons and pairs at displays these days, but little more.

A superb piece of animation and its creators deserve huge credit.
 

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