More worthwhile legslation from the Scottish Parliament.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6234290.stm
Kilt wearers could face prosecution if they do not have a licence for their sporran under new legislation which has been introduced in Scotland.

The laws are designed to protect endangered species like badgers and otters, whose fur used to be favoured by sporran makers.

The legislation applies to animals killed after 1994.

Applicants must prove that the animal was killed lawfully before they will be able to get a licence.

The conservation regulations were designed to close a number of loopholes and bring Scotland into line with other EU members.

They also apply to other vulnerable animals like deer, wildcats, hedgehogs, bats, lynx, moles, seals, whales, dolphins and porpoises.


Having a licence... will ensure they will not be prosecuted or have it taken from them under the new regulations
Scottish Executive spokeswoman

The regulations require anyone who owns any part of a protected animal to obtain a licence.

The maximum penalties for breaking the law are a fine of £5,000 and six months in prison.

Hamish Husband, spokesman for the Association of Tartan Army Clubs, said the legislation could affect fans who follow their national football team.

"Are the police going to take DNA samples from the sporran of every kilted supporter who walks into Hampden?" he asked.

"If that's the case we will need to look into obtaining a licence to cover the entire Tartan Army."

The new rules will also cover fishing flies made from animal hair.

A Scottish Executive spokeswoman said the new rules had been put in place to bring Scotland into line with existing European legislation designed to protect vulnerable species.

"The licence will allow people who possess artefacts made from these species in circumstances compliant with earlier laws to keep them," she said.

"This could be family heirlooms of various descriptions.

"Having a licence for such an artefact, proving it was obtained legally, will ensure they will not be prosecuted or have it taken from them under the new regulations."
A licence for a fishing fly? The implications for this are beyond belief. Since when were deer "vulnerable animals"? If I go deerstalking and bring the antlers back with me am I going to have to get a licence? Will I need a licence for the meat?
Is that a leather belt you're wearing Mr. ES? Looks like deer hide. If you cannot prove it's not subject to a licence requirement then I will have to confiscate it. I'll have that feather out of your cap too.

How it brings Scotland into line with other European countries when it doesn't apply in England is beyond me.

Anybody who thinks these muppets could run an independent Scotland must be barking mad!
 
#2
I can just see Johnny Hun and Joe the Eytalian taking off the Boarhound tusks(from their hats) and passing them over to the local carabineiri.

Law passing is one thing, enforcement - a whole other ball game
 
#5
Does that then mean that the Royals and their followers will not be killing deer etc when they venture north for their annual holidays?
 
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TartanJock said:
Does that then mean that the Royals and their followers will not be killing deer etc when they venture north for their annual holidays?
Well spotted, but the BBC's mention of deer seems to be careless reporting. Red deer are not "protected species" for nature conservation purposes.
 
#7
I've come in off in a quick afternoon session on the old fizzy alcoholic apple juice and seen this and realised I must have a drink problem! WTF! I'm off to the bar to finish myself off. Probably come back in time to see that wearing jeans is against stem cell research!

I wish I'd voted now! :roll:
 
#9
One of those red deer sporrans would be a talking point though. At least you would have somewhere to hang your Bunnet and no loose it.

The thing is the Badgers and otters used in sporran making are road kill any way, so if there is more hassle in volved in picking them up its more work for the council.
 
#10
The Road kill ones .....ie me and others are out the Game..as the RRS has new ones..the Badger ones are only worn now officers and Snco's who had their mess dress before the change of cap badge..this will only last for four years..and one is already gone....bugger it's going to cost another packet....wife will be chuft! :wink:
 
#11
Nice to see Scotland getting something back that their politicians have been doing to us English for years, your blinkin Parliament, not ours
 
#12
If the EU is successful there will be no point to a united UK as foreign policy,taxation and defense policy will all be made in Brussels, Already trash collection seems to be managed by EU rules and from what I read that is quite successful - not.
 

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Tartan_Ninja said:
Anybody who thinks these muppets could run an independent Scotland must be barking mad!

another waste of my tax money paying for this stupid debate :x ....Gits
Going on the past record and number of decades of misrule by the Scottish National Arbeits Liarbour Party - how much time will you give the Scottish Nats? They Have only been in a few weeks - give them a break.
 
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tomahawk6 said:
If the EU is successful there will be no point to a united UK as foreign policy,taxation and defense policy will all be made in Brussels, Already trash collection seems to be managed by EU rules and from what I read that is quite successful - not.
It is over here in Germany, we have 4 bins; Paper, Plastic & Metal, biodegradable, and general rubbish (this bin being the smallest and least frequently collected).

I can safely say, with a bit of effort by the individual it works a treat. However lot of people in the UK complain lots and act little.

Such an outrage that an individual should be responsible for the rubbish he creates!

Then again, it depands what toilet paper you believe :roll:
 
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Darthspud said:
I can just see Johnny Hun and Joe the Eytalian taking off the Boarhound tusks(from their hats) and passing them over to the local carabineiri.

Law passing is one thing, enforcement - a whole other ball game
Very true, and one of the reasons the UK is in sh1t order.
 
#17
I personaly own 2 sporrans, one in rabbit fur and the other is a plain leather one, I would imagine they will be up to the job anyway and do look quite nice.

I remember popping into a couple of Tartan shop in Edinburgh, the Seal fur sporrans cost £200 ish , I wonder if they will be dropping like a stone soon, if Seals are a protected species and come under these daft laws.
 
#18
CAARPS said:
Then again, it depands what toilet paper you believe :roll:
What recycling bin does the used toilet paper go in? I can never remember.

I remember seeing the environment minister on telly a while ago. She was asked what happens to all the plastic bottles that we have to recycle. After about five minutes of avoiding the question she gave in and answered it.

She said instead of burning it in UK incinerators, companies are paid to compress it and pack it into containers. Shipping companies are then paid to take it to China. Chinese waste companies are then paid to burn it in Chinese incinerators.
 

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#19
Have to say that it's rather touching that our vassals are concerning themselves over Scots legislation. Despite it being no business of theirs whatsoever.
 
#20
Sixty said:
Have to say that it's rather touching that our vassals are concerning themselves over Scots legislation. Despite it being no business of theirs whatsoever.
Try less cider with it.

If I travel to Scotland this legislation applies to me. That makes it my business. I live in a United Kingdom.
 

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