More resistance to populism by the old guard

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Forming a government in Italy has for generations been a hit and miss affair. But here is another example of the establishment trying their damndest to resist the democratic will. I wonder who is pulling Sergio Mattarella's strings?
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The decision by the Italian President is all to do with the financial markets. Guess who he's beholden to?
And guess who he's decided will be interim PM? Step forward former IMF director, Carlo Cottarelli.

The consensus appears to be that the developing crisis will force another election from which the populists will benefit substantially. The rise of populism in Europe has come about as the result of the frustration of people being manipulated by the EU and their associated elites. What better example could have been provided to the Italian electorate of the usual suspects in action?
 
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The same people that want to keep the flow of exploitable ,cheap and unregulated workers that are willing to accept low wages in order to continue to maximise profit margins at any cost. Until National Political parties stand up to Brussels Eurocrats and force them into reforming the EU Federation back to European Economic Area it won't stop.
 
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Just keep on voting until the "correct" choice is made. Stand by for the habitual media hatchet job on the opposition, 'sall got a bit boring and predictable by now.

Edited to add: Ahh got it now, the EU masterplan. Demonstrate repeatedly that the voting process brings no change as expressed by the will of the people, voters get ever more used to being ignored, no longer bother to vote, full steam ahead to the death of the nation state. Result!
 
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And guess who he's decided will be interim PM? Step forward former IMF director, Carlo Cottarelli.

The consensus appears to be that the developing crisis will force another election from which the populists will benefit substantially. The rise of populism in Europe has come about as the result of the frustration of people being manipulated by the EU and their associated elites. What better example could have been provided to the Italian electorate of the usual suspects in action?
They'll never get it; the more the establishment digs its heels in the more 'populist' things will become. One day soon - not necessarily in Italy - the establishment will be left quivering under a barrage of petrol bombs and masked rioters hell bent on showing them the error of their ways.
 
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They'll never get it; the more the establishment digs its heels in the more 'populist' things will become. One day soon - not necessarily in Italy - the establishment will be left quivering under a barrage of petrol bombs and masked rioters hell bent on showing them the error of their ways.
Shhhhh you'll be accused of inciting Revolution you old Marxist you, there'll be a Reactionary Capitalist along shortly to sort out your Commie thinking Comrade..............
 
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Very similar thing happened in Italy in 2011, Old Silvio was forced out as he upset Merkel and the French and the Italian President installed Mario, a technocrat who brought in a some sweep tax changes and tried to change the senate. He lasted about a year then elections and he disappeared.

Italy then had a few years social democrat young pretender sort of Tony Blair, he got the heave ho and the country have plumped for two so called populist parties.

5 star and Lega Nord, however Lega Nord have now made inroads in the south, a place they never bothered with, why is the south voting for an anti imiggration party that wanted to split the north from the south, guess why. Seems the south are fed up with daily arrivals on the beach. Lega Nord promised to send back 500,000 illegals and 5 star are keen on spreading the arrivals across the EU. Both ideas have found favourwith the voters not the EU though.

Both parties are suspicious of the EU and the euro if not hostile, bit of a worry also to the EU, along with the fact the parties want the EU to wipe out a huge debt the ECB has of Italian bonds.

Add all this together and you can see why they can not be allowed to run the country in the eyes of the EU, so the president has acted, new elections in the autumn.

I wonder what the outcome will be, voters flocking back to the traditional parties and strengthening support for the populist parties.

To further Italy’s embarisment, this weekend the last stage of the Giro De Italia around Rome was shortened due to poor roads as no money is available for repairs.
 
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Just add this

Tensions already red-hot in Italy over what League/5* see as Berlin/Brussels limiting democracy. In wades German EU Commissioner @GOettingerEU saying markets will teach Italians how to vote. What was he thinking? Might as well call for voter re-education twitter.com/RiegertBernd/s…

Tweet has been deleted but that’s the attitude, the markets dictate who runs Italy, just like Greece.
 
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Just add this

Tensions already red-hot in Italy over what League/5* see as Berlin/Brussels limiting democracy. In wades German EU Commissioner @GOettingerEU saying markets will teach Italians how to vote. What was he thinking? Might as well call for voter re-education twitter.com/RiegertBernd/s…

Tweet has been deleted but that’s the attitude, the markets dictate who runs Italy, just like Greece.
If anything, the markets react (negatively) to uncertainty. The Italian president's intervention is instrumental in creating such uncertainty.
 
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They'll never get it; the more the establishment digs its heels in the more 'populist' things will become. One day soon - not necessarily in Italy - the establishment will be left quivering under a barrage of petrol bombs and masked rioters hell bent on showing them the error of their ways.
Except that the innocents will take the flack and the greasy pole merchants will be away to their boltholes.
 
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New elections loom in Italy amid calls for Mattarella to be impeached

Forming a government in Italy has for generations been a hit and miss affair. But here is another example of the establishment trying their damndest to resist the democratic will. I wonder who is pulling Sergio Mattarella's strings?
Lot of brown envelopes flying about? the last but one King of Italy eventually stood up to the boxheads and fired the bloke who 'mada da trains run ona da time' may be they should have kept the monarchy in 1946.
 
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Lot of brown envelopes flying about? the last but one King of Italy eventually stood up to the boxheads and fired the bloke who 'mada da trains run ona da time' may be they should have kept the monarchy in 1946.
The ****** only "stood up to the boxheads" after 2 decades of Mussolini rule, the invasion of Sicily, the realisation the Axis were going to get a hiding and the backing of the Fascist grand council.
They are/were second only to the French when it comes to sucking up to those who look like they are winning.
 
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The ****** only "stood up to the boxheads" after 2 decades of Mussolini rule, the invasion of Sicily, the realisation the Axis were going to get a hiding and the backing of the Fascist grand council.
They are/were second only to the French when it comes to sucking up to those who look like they are winning.
They have had more than two decades of EU rule already, and Musso had a lot of popular support until things started to go pear shaped so King had to go along with the flow. Perhaps we will see history repeat itself. BTW Musso set up a 'Socialist Republic' for Italy (well parts) after the Fj saved his arrse (for a time at least). We await future developments with interest though?
 
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They have had more than two decades of EU rule already, and Musso had a lot of popular support until things started to go pear shaped so King had to go along with the flow. Perhaps we will see history repeat itself. BTW Musso set up a 'Socialist Republic' for Italy (well parts) after the Fj saved his arrse (for a time at least). We await future developments with interest though?
I'm sure the Italians will accept bribes to toe the line from the EU, they normally do.
 
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