More Political Hypocrisy

#1
Yet more evidence that our current ruling elite has few if any principles and will do and say anything to stay in power:

Dems buy anti-health-reform ads
By: Sarah Kliff
September 16, 2010 04:31 AM EDT

Democratic candidates are spending three times more advertising against the health reform law than they are in support of it.

Since the beginning of Congress’s August recess, Democratic candidates have poured $930,000 into ads deriding the health overhaul but just $300,000 in pro-reform spots, according to Evan Tracey at Kantar Media.

“Go back to 2006, and even before that, and Democrats used health care as their No. 1 issue,” Tracey said. “They had a villain in the pharmaceutical industry. Now that they passed this law, it’s almost disarmed them rather than given them an opportunity.”

Moreover, Tracey’s data shows that health reform opponents – inside and outside of Congress – are increasingly outspending supporters. Opponents now spend seven times as much on anti-reform spots as supporters spend on pro-reform spots, a marked change from early May, when their dollars only doubled those of reform advocates.

Anti-reform forces, including the Chamber for Commerce, Americans for Prosperity and Crossroads GPS, have spent $14 million on advertisements since early August, Tracey said.

At the same time, pro-reform groups have spent just $1.8 million. The most notable buy comes from the Health Information Campaign, a new-Democrat led group currently running a three-week, national ad campaign in support of the new law.

Even Democratic candidates’ pro-reform ads can offer tepid support for the law. Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) ran an ad last week that mentioned his support of health reform briefly, sandwiched between other legislative accomplishments.

“When the economy collapsed, Sen. Feingold helped pass tax cuts for 95 percent of Wisconsin family,” the script reads. “Russ also fought for tax credits for small businesses and relief from rising health care costs.”

“There’s not any messaging out there by incumbent Democrats trying to promote what people liked, like allowing dependents to stay on their parents’ insurance,” says Tracey. He describes the Health Information Campaign’s advertisements, which do hit on popular provisions of reform, as “one voice screaming in a crowd. They’re not going to get heard with everyone else screaming.”

As POLITICO has previously reported, at least five Democrats have run ads touting their opposition to health reform.

Anti-health reform groups continue to pour millions into attack ads. The Chamber of Commerce went up Tuesday with new ads attacking Attorney General Jack Conway in Kentucky for supporting the law and accusing Florida Gov. Charlie Crist of flip-flopping on the issue.

“Democrats haven’t found a good rejoinder,” Tracey said. “There doesn’t seem to be a significant effort to try and dial some of that criticism down, turn a negative into a positive.”
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=188ECCC3-18FE-70B2-A87098A7E8ACCF49
 

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JJ.
Good job I was sitting down when you told me that. I nearly fainted clean away with the shock. On the other hand there's also a fair few Republicans quite happy to suck from the Federal Tit too. So its not a one way street. It looks like the RINO's have been handed a bit of a spanking though. If only we could get more tax cutting MP's over here.
 
#3
JJ.
Good job I was sitting down when you told me that. I nearly fainted clean away with the shock. On the other hand there's also a fair few Republicans quite happy to suck from the Federal Tit too. So its not a one way street. It looks like the RINO's have been handed a bit of a spanking though. If only we could get more tax cutting MP's over here.
As I keep saying and some are beginning to understand, this has much less to do with conventional labels (left/right, demo/repub etc.) and everything to do with professional politicians whose understandable concern for keeping their livelihoods (and for many the power needed to assuage their egos) put them in an irreconcilable conflict of interest in terms of their duties to the public (expressly sworn under the Constitution I might add).

When this phenomenon is placed within the context of the prevalent socio/political philosophy of "progressivism" it makes for a veritable devil's brew since this world view has as its core value the supplanting of individual merit, productivity, civic responsibility, self worth and most important, freedom with increasingly onerous and ultimately oppressive central government control of all aspects of our lives. This is accomplished in various ways but the dynamics are similar even if the details vary in terms of the ultimate form of the government structure (marxist, fascist, socialist etc.), how long it takes and how forceful the measures are to get there (from actual coercive force to the "nudging" (see Richard Thaler's and Obama's tsar Cass Sunstein's book for example: Amazon.com: Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness (9780300122237): Richard H. Thaler, Prof. Cass R. Sunstein: Books ) manipulation favored by our current masters)----make the people more and more dependent on the government instead of themselves and their own abilities.
 
#4
I still maintain that there is no such thing as 'freedom', and am very suspicious when that word gets bandied about by someone who is trying to make a political point.

There is only 'freedom from....'

There will be many people who would happily lose a bit of what the Republicans bang on about in terms of this mythical 'freedom' if it offered them a bit more freedom from poverty, lack of access to medical care and shite housing.
 
#5
I still maintain that there is no such thing as 'freedom', and am very suspicious when that word gets bandied about by someone who is trying to make a political point.

There is only 'freedom from....'

There will be many people who would happily lose a bit of what the Republicans bang on about in terms of this mythical 'freedom' if it offered them a bit more freedom from poverty, lack of access to medical care and shite housing.
Perhaps. Again you seem stuck in the demo/repub model and I would urge a broader view. I also would remind all of us that as it has been said, " a government that can give you all you want, can take all you have."

I would also suggest you drill down into your statement "poverty, lack of access to medical care and shite housing" and at least in the US you may see that the various efforts by our federal government over the last century to ameliorate these matters have in fact aggravated them and even worse served to erode the characteristics of a successful society such as self-reliance, thrift, true community, sense of shame at being on the dole and personal desire to improve one's lot.

Instead we see a dramatic increase in dysfunctional "families" with serial illegitimacy, horrific crime rates, despair and an increasing sense of "victimhood" that looks to the government to provide for otherwise able bodied and capable people since they have been deprived of their own self confidence and pride due to the government's tender mercies, even if originally well intended (and there is some doubt about that).
 
#6
[SNIP] . . . various efforts by our federal government over the last century to ameliorate these matters have in fact aggravated them and even worse served to erode the characteristics of a successful society such as self-reliance, thrift, true community, sense of shame at being on the dole and personal desire to improve one's lot.

Instead we see a dramatic increase in dysfunctional "families" with serial illegitimacy, horrific crime rates, despair and an increasing sense of "victimhood" that looks to the government to provide for otherwise able bodied and capable people since they have been deprived of their own self confidence and pride due to the government's tender mercies, even if originally well intended (and there is some doubt about that).
Wait a minute, I used to need a visa to travel from the country you describe (in which I live) to visit yours . . . .
 
#7
Wait a minute, I used to need a visa to travel from the country you describe (in which I live) to visit yours . . . .

Well done...as I wrote that i wondered if anyone might see the parallels not only to the UK but just about every "progressive" nation that has gone down this slippery path.
 
#8
As I keep saying and some are beginning to understand, this has much less to do with conventional labels (left/right, demo/repub etc.) and everything to do with professional politicians whose understandable concern for keeping their livelihoods (and for many the power needed to assuage their egos) put them in an irreconcilable conflict of interest in terms of their duties to the public (expressly sworn under the Constitution I might add).

When this phenomenon is placed within the context of the prevalent socio/political philosophy of "progressivism" it makes for a veritable devil's brew since this world view has as its core value the supplanting of individual merit, productivity, civic responsibility, self worth and most important, freedom with increasingly onerous and ultimately oppressive central government control of all aspects of our lives. This is accomplished in various ways but the dynamics are similar even if the details vary in terms of the ultimate form of the government structure (marxist, fascist, socialist etc.), how long it takes and how forceful the measures are to get there (from actual coercive force to the "nudging" (see Richard Thaler's and Obama's tsar Cass Sunstein's book for example: Amazon.com: Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness (9780300122237): Richard H. Thaler, Prof. Cass R. Sunstein: Books ) manipulation favored by our current masters)----make the people more and more dependent on the government instead of themselves and their own abilities.
So what does he do? He goes out and joins a group whose candidates seem to be linked only by IQs in the low double digits with no grasp of macroeconomics or notable only for being conspiracy theorists, closet bigots (see Rand Paul on the Civil Rights Act) or their strong anti-wanking credentials and their resolute belief in sample packets of sunscreen being a useful campaign marketing aid (see Christine O'Donnell).
 
#9
Well done...as I wrote that i wondered if anyone might see the parallels not only to the UK but just about every "progressive" nation that has gone down this slippery path.
It has been interesting to see how political commentry on Arrse during the Brown years is now almost mirrored across the pond by many of your, and your countrymen's, posts. i.e. sheer horror at what is being inflicted on your nation's culture, ideals, and economy.

You have my deepest sympathies. (But in a very selfish way, I breath a sigh of relief and think "thank God it has moved away from Britain".*)

*To be continued...
 
#10
It has been interesting to see how political commentry on Arrse during the Brown years is now almost mirrored across the pond by many of your, and your countrymen's, posts. i.e. sheer horror at what is being inflicted on your nation's culture, ideals, and economy.

You have my deepest sympathies. (But in a very selfish way, I breath a sigh of relief and think "thank God it has moved away from Britain".*)



*To be continued...
Indeed so......
 

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