More on new "Elite" Regt

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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13322158,00.html

NEW ELITE REGIMENT FORMED

A new Special Forces regiment will be created with specific responsibility to fight terrorism.

The Special Reconnaissance Regiment will provide support for overseas operations - particularly operations to counter international terrorism, said Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon.


He said: "The creation of the Special Reconnaissance Regiment demonstrates our commitment to shaping our Armed Forces to meet the ongoing challenge of tackling international terrorism.

"The new regiment will help to meet the growing need for special reconnaissance capability."

It has drawn its recruits from all three services, with some posts open to women.

The SRR will be deployed in a variety of military operations, supporting both existing Special Forces units and conventional forces.

It is distinct from the tri-service "ranger" unit, which is to be formed from the 1st Battalion The Parachute Regiment to support Special Forces operations.

The need for a special reconnaissance capability was first identified in the Strategic Defence Review "new chapter" in July 2002.

The Ministry of Defence said "special reconnaissance" covered "a wide range of specialist skills and activities related to covert surveillance".

It will come under the command of Director Special Forces and be a part of the UK Special Forces group based at Hereford.
 
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I thought 3 Para had been designated the 'support' unit for SF (as opposed to 1 Para)?
 
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Whiskybreath said:
I thought 3 Para had been designated the 'support' unit for SF (as opposed to 1 Para)?
Nope - 1 PARA at first - then in rotation thereafter (on current plans!). We still need to maintain the skillsets required to deliver S/LPBG capabilities.

forniup said:
4/73 Bty might have a job then
No chance - I assume you're being ironic? SRR won't touch 'em with a bargepole.
 
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Is this an updated and expanded version of 14 int? (obviously with international responsibilities)
 
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Agent_Smith said:
Is this an updated and expanded version of 14 int? (obviously with international responsibilities)
Yes, but now they get a funny hat.
 

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TCH issued the following statementtoday.

Secretary of State for Defence announces Special Reconnaissance Regiment
Published Tuesday 5th April 2005


ArmyOn 5 April 2005 the Secretary of State for Defence, Geoff Hoon MP, announced the creation of a new "Special Reconnaissance Regiment", which has been formed to meet a growing worldwide need for special reconnaissance capability.

In a Written Ministerial Statement to the House of Commons, Mr Hoon said:

"The Strategic Defence Review (SDR) New Chapter published in July 2002 stated that we planned to enhance and build upon the capabilities of UK Special Forces. As part of this programme, the 'Special Reconnaissance Regiment' (SRR) will stand up on April 6 2005. This regiment has been formed to meet a growing worldwide demand for special reconnaissance capability. Consistent with the SDR New Chapter, this regiment will provide improved support to expeditionary operations overseas and form part of the Defence contribution to the Government's comprehensive strategy to counter international terrorism. The SRR will bring together personnel from existing capabilities and become the means of the further development of the capability. Due to the specialist nature of the unit, it will come under the command of the Director Special Forces and be a part of the UK Special Forces group."
 
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So the Det Geeks are now also cunning linguists with nice hats. How many Robert DeNiro lookalikes are we going to get...?

:roll:

On a serious note, and seeing as how they fall under DSF not DInt, should they maybe wear the capbadge of the WWII Reconnaissance Corps ?

http://www.airbornerecce.com/dtroop/history/corpshis.htm

A sizeable portion of the SRR's recruits will come from infantry and RAC regiments, I'm sure.

Just a thought....
 
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FrogPrince said:
So the Det Geeks are now also cunning linguists with nice hats. How many Robert DeNiro lookalikes are we going to get...?

:roll:

On a serious note, and seeing as how they fall under DSF not DInt, should they maybe wear the capbadge of the WWII Reconnaissance Corps ?

http://www.airbornerecce.com/dtroop/history/corpshis.htm

A sizeable portion of the SRR's recruits will come from infantry and RAC regiments, I'm sure.

Just a thought....
Nope Grecian helmet with sword running through I believe

SRR Dress Code
 
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Oooh err, missus.... UBL and AQ must be quaking in their boots. The last Greek who passed that way was Alexander the Great !!
 
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Good luck to the new Regt.

Sorry I would really like to say something nice about the capbadge too, I understand the neat Corinthian-helmet symbolism and all that, but..

When I saw Plastic Squaddies' post I genuinely thought at first that it was a Cpl_ripper type spoof. Couldnt decide if it was a benny with a Hitler moustache, or possibly a giant with a Lilliputian stuck upside-down to his nose. :oops:

I expect that the actual badge looks much better and that everyone will get used to it anyway.
 
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FrogPrince said:
So the Det Geeks are now also cunning linguists with nice hats. How many Robert DeNiro lookalikes are we going to get...?

:roll:

On a serious note, and seeing as how they fall under DSF not DInt, should they maybe wear the capbadge of the WWII Reconnaissance Corps ?

http://www.airbornerecce.com/dtroop/history/corpshis.htm

A sizeable portion of the SRR's recruits will come from infantry and RAC regiments, I'm sure.

Just a thought....
I think the remit for this particular unit is somewhat different than the historical SF operator ........think of the target and then think of the need to blend in!

They were seeking a particular type of individual with a particular set of characteristics.......
 
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The new cap badge shows a Corinthian helmet with a sword inserted in the mouth and coming out of the back of the head. A scroll reads: "Reconnaissance".

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"The Corinthian-style helmet, favoured by the ancient Greeks from the early 7th to 4th centuries BC. The helmet faces forward and suggests the viewer is being watched while the wearer behind the mask is anonymous."
Uh,.......It suggests the wearer of the helmet has just been stabbed through the mouth and out the back of the head.
 
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quote "similar to P Company" [ref fitness]...........can't see any female passing P coy type training. so thats a load of bollards for a start then!
 
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The problem i have with forming a new regiment for recon purposes (and to work along side them) is that surely when you have one group collecting the info and the other acting on it (ie bang bang your dead mr taliban), that there is bound to be a breakdown in communications leading to big cockups. It happened in NI and is still happening in armies round the world. Surely it would be better to concentrate the resources on the SF community and try to increase their numbers (through appropriate selection, not scaled down).

It just seems to me that this is another case of SF slodiers on the cheap.

Just my 2 cents :?
 
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A_S,

I understand your scepticism, but this is markedly different from anything else we have tried before.

We now have a much more coherent human-centric 'sensor-shooter' linkage than currently available, and it's all swept up inside one organic organisation, with a unified CoC. This is a 'good thing'. It will also have an Inf Bn (1 PARA for now) to facilitate the rapid transition from enabling action - direct action - reinforcing action without recourse to additional, arguably more cumbersome CoC issues and overheads.

The real issue with all this is that the numbers of 'direct action' forces are contining to decline - but the new structure will allow planners to tailor requirements in a much more streamlined fashion, thus releasing 'direct action' forces from more onerous, surveillance specific tasks. This is also a 'good thing'.

IMHO. :D
 
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Everything else aside, that cap badge is just plain gay!

Very American looking and just a tad embarrassing........

When selection is done for this outfit do they also insist on hollering and whooping and singing songs about 'Mama and papa lying in bed' hi fiving, scoff hershey bars and address each other as bro?
 
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