Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by chimera, Jan 8, 2007.

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  1. chimera

    chimera LE Moderator

    Do these people have no shame:

    Nice to see Blair (educated Fettes College (private school) and Oxford) defending Kelly (educated Westminster School (private) and Oxford) over her decision to send one of her children to a private school. Those things to which the Labour Party is institutionally and ideologically opposed.
  2. It's akin to Mr Ratners bollock drop remark about his products a few years ago.

    Clearly not confident in what she was supposedly in charge of when in office.
  3. in_the_cheapseats

    in_the_cheapseats LE Moderator

    No. Even though I have absolutely no time for and frankly worry about the influence Kelly, a member of a fundamentalist christian group, has on our education system, for once I think we should back off this.

    The child in question is special needs. Some areas have excellent special needs schools (my sister was lucky enough to attend one of these). Some are poor.

    However, the needs of the child must come first. I don't know what level of special needs her child has but I can't blame her for using the best around to maximise her child's happiness and well being.

    The deliberate policy of closing special needs schools and placing children back into mainstream schools, which has not worked and probably is the reason she doesn't have a good state spec needs school close to hand is something we could speak about instead.
  4. Excellent! Any pictures we can add to the mong thread?
  5. yes of course flash...Ruth Kellys pic of course :D
  6. elovabloke

    elovabloke LE Moderator

    A Labour policy I believe.

  7. I was hoping for a mug shot of her dribbling mmllllaarr offspring.
  8. Mong offspring? Surely not!


  9. Fuck me with a fish fork. There is deffo several more chromasones than the norm in that one. She has the classic dribbly bottom lip and lazy eye. No doubt super human strength too. Hardly suprising her sprog is a cabbage.
  10. Isn't this what every parent who sends their child to a private school is trying to do? Are you supposed to not want the best for your child because they're not special needs?

    I'm afraid Kelly is still a hypocrite. If she had morals she would practice what she preaches, special needs or not.
  11. Although it is good to see Labour hoisted by its own petard, I feel some sympathy for Ruth Kelly.

    Firstly, it is a shame that the State system cannot provide her child with an education that meets its needs, even when those reported needs put it outside the normal boundary of State education. Secondly, if she wants to spend her dosh on private education, that is alright and is her choice. The public funds that would have been spent on her child will now help towards the overall budget elsewhere.

    It is the rank hypocrisy of the Labour Government that gets to me; they dismantled a perfectly good system that provided a state education system based on ability, and invented an education system that depends on how much money, or political influence, parents can wield. Where is the sense in that? The smart child, born of poor parents who live in the catchment area of a poor school, now has great difficulty escaping from that background - because the parents cannot afford to move to the catchment area of a better school or to pay for private education. Even the Assisted Places scheme has been destroyed, and Northern Ireland is about to lose its grammar schools (courtesy of Martin McGuinness....).

    Is this Socialism? It isn't what I understand to be Socialism. This is part of the "I'm alright, Jack" culture that I abhor.

    Hypocritical? Yes, and she therefore deserves the opprobium that will be heaped upon her.

    /and breathe....

  12. elovabloke

    elovabloke LE Moderator

    According to the news this morning the child was ryxlexic which, if true, hardly requires a special school - is the private school a specialist one? Our college deals with at least a 100 dyslexic students all the time.
  13. Surly there must be other kids with the same, or worse, conditions that have to stay in state education. What of those poeple that can't afford to send their children to a private school. It might come as a blow to Mrs Kelly but not everyone earns £100,000 a year with a nice fat expense account on top.

    Remember, we are all equal, but some are more equal than others.
  14. elovabloke

    elovabloke LE Moderator

    Labour speak - at least the conservatives and our senior hofficer brigade never hide their contempt of us.
  15. chimera

    chimera LE Moderator

    Why does the fact that the child has special needs suddenly shift the political position on education? The Labour Party is ideologically opposed to any form of private or selective education - you either agree or you don't. Your quote above could be applied to ANY parent seeking the best for their child.