More JPA fun!

Sarastro

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#1
Just been told that far from not getting paid, the JPA cannot even get so far as recognising my bank exists. This despite it being the largest bank in Scotland, 5th largest in the UK or thereabouts, 10th largest in the world etc. Apparently without a 'recognised' sort code (funnily enough, no other organisation in the country has any problem recognising my sort code when paying cheques, DD etc) or a bank whose existence is JPA acknowledged, you are basically fucked, and admin recommend just opening a new bloody bank account as the easiest way to solve situation...

Do the govt. just hand out IT contracts to any dribbling village idiot who happens to wander up Whitehall in search of his lost marbles?
 
#4
Here's a happy little thought to go to bed with. Is the problem really with JPA or is it just the Govts way of saving money by just not paying the troops al la USSR just before the wheels fell off completely?
 

Sarastro

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#5
brightidea said:
I think PBKAC might be the issue in many cases.
Hmm, PBKAC? PM Brown's Kleptomaniacal Administration of Cash? Poor Bastards Kannot Access Coinage?
 
#6
If its The Royal Bank of Scotland they need to put "The" in as i think there is a Royal Bank of Scotland or Bank of Scotland on JPA as i had a similar issue a few weeks ago.
 

Sarastro

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#7
Is indeed laughingboy - there is Bank of Scotland on JPA (different bank), but admin couldn't find Royal Bank of Scotland anywhere. Did you managed to get the system to recognise RBS in the end? Thanks for the tip, will try it out.

PS

Mongoose said:
Actually Oracle is a great piece of kit in all fairness, it's list of customers is large and impressive
The latter doesn't exactly prove the former. There are plenty of IT companies which do the major public contracts (Capita, EDS) which have a large and impressive list of customers, but consistently f**k up every late, overbudget system they bring in.
 
#9
I discovered from a chum, who popped upstairs in MB that you can no longer have claims paid into another Bnk Account. You can have another bank account and have money paid into it but it can only be a % of your pay including allowances.

People like the old duffer, my chum, who want to have their CEA for their kids paid into a seperate account can no longer do so nor can they have all their claims paid into an account that they use as a slush account for treats for their wife/girlfriend/partner/FB/BC. What a great advance we have made yet again.

You should have heard him rant about it. Mind you I agree - what a total disaster.

We have been squeezed into Oracle not as an advance but as a total savings measure.
Should I claim for the cost of the filing cabinet I am going to have to buy to store all the expenses claims in? Do you need to keep receipts for 1yr 18 months or 2 yrs - I have heard all 3 and 2 of them from pay types in the same office.

Bring back the pay clerk
 
#10
Before the Army got on the system it was "keep recepts for 12 months" and "receipts not required for claims less than £5" Now the Army is on the system, it's 2 years and receipts for everything.
 
#11
JPA for self service is brilliant, as a better admin kit than UNICOM, hmmm! Clerks cant even put people into sub units. After all the hype, our clerks think its shite.
 
#12
Sarastro said:
Just been told that far from not getting paid, the JPA cannot even get so far as recognising my bank exists. This despite it being the largest bank in Scotland, 5th largest in the UK or thereabouts, 10th largest in the world etc. Apparently without a 'recognised' sort code (funnily enough, no other organisation in the country has any problem recognising my sort code when paying cheques, DD etc) or a bank whose existence is JPA acknowledged, you are basically fucked, and admin recommend just opening a new bloody bank account as the easiest way to solve situation...

Do the govt. just hand out IT contracts to any dribbling village idiot who happens to wander up Whitehall in search of his lost marbles?
Yes.
 
#13
On a serious note I think keeping the receipts etc is a daft idea. Young sailors on a ship have very little space for kit and clothes as it is, and I guess it is simillar for young soldiers. Fine for civies, but not ideal for armed forces.
 
#14
lanky said:
On a serious note I think keeping the receipts etc is a daft idea. Young sailors on a ship have very little space for kit and clothes as it is, and I guess it is simillar for young soldiers. Fine for civies, but not ideal for armed forces.
I see your argument - but 1000 receipts takes up less space than a small book, are you saying you do not have the space - or would it be more accurate to state that it is just inconvenience?
 
#16
Sarastro said:
Mongoose said:
Actually Oracle is a great piece of kit in all fairness, it's list of customers is large and impressive
The latter doesn't exactly prove the former. There are plenty of IT companies which do the major public contracts (Capita, EDS) which have a large and impressive list of customers, but consistently f**k up every late, overbudget system they bring in.
But then if you take a great of-the-shelf package like Oracle and then let EDS customise 127 of the 128 functions in it who do you think is likely to be at fault?! A great Freedon of Info question would be 'what proportion of EDS UK government projects have come in on time and budget?'
 
#17
Resurgam said:
I discovered from a chum, who popped upstairs in MB that you can no longer have claims paid into another Bnk Account. You can have another bank account and have money paid into it but it can only be a % of your pay including allowances.

People like the old duffer, my chum, who want to have their CEA for their kids paid into a seperate account can no longer do so nor can they have all their claims paid into an account that they use as a slush account for treats for their wife/girlfriend/partner/FB/BC. What a great advance we have made yet again.

This is not quite true. When you set up each of your accounts you have to state whether or not the account is for expenses. You can have a 1st account with 100% wage and no expenses and a 2nd account with 0.01% and expenses. p.s. don't let the misses see this.
 
#18
Assuming that we one day get (a) a login, (b) a password and (c) a JPA terminal that we can use, of course.
Login is your Army No and first 5 of surname.
Password, phone JPA - they will give it to you, have your NI handy
Terminals - use the clerks....problem solved....just!
 
#19
SoULWiz said:
Assuming that we one day get (a) a login, (b) a password and (c) a JPA terminal that we can use, of course.
Login is your Army No and first 5 of surname.
Password, phone JPA - they will give it to you, have your NI handy
Terminals - use the clerks....problem solved....just!
Yep, went to see the Clerks yesterday to see if my details had arrived and lo! I now have a username. Now if everyone else could log off for ten minutes, I might be able to log on.

I'm sure the clerks are going to be chuffed about 150 people needing to use their terminal every time they need to put leave in or make a claim.
 
#20
Sarastro said:
Is indeed laughingboy - there is Bank of Scotland on JPA (different bank), but admin couldn't find Royal Bank of Scotland anywhere. Did you managed to get the system to recognise RBS in the end? Thanks for the tip, will try it out.

Dont know if you have got it sorted yet but The Royal Bank of Scotland Plc is on JPA, if your Clerks say it isnt then shoot them.
 

Similar threads


Latest Threads

Top