More Army cuts but RAF Regt still endure

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A senior Army chief has warned of a fresh wave of redundancies that will wipe out entire battalions and regiments, a leaked letter to commanding officers has revealed. Gen Peter Wall, Chief of the General Staff (CGS), said an additional 5,000 soldiers will be made redundant on top of the 7,000 the Government has already announced.

That will lead to an "inevitable" new redundancy programme and the "disbanding" of battalions, he revealed in a letter seen by the Daily Telegraph.

But despite this, the RAF Regt still endures. Why don't the Army make a fresh attempt to get rid of them and take over their role - might at least keep a few more soldiers. Perhaps the Army could use a tour protecting the Crabs as an RnR tour?
 
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someone somewhere must've thought of this, it seems too obvious not to have been overlooked.

bin the RAF Regt in a heartbeat
 
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you can't cut the RAf Reg. They're part of the big 4...aparently as one of their number once bosted to me in the ECOS in the COB in Iraq!! :)
 
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bokkatankie

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But despite this, the RAF Regt still endures. Why don't the Army make a fresh attempt to get rid of them and take over their role - might at least keep a few more soldiers. Perhaps the Army could use a tour protecting the Crabs as an RnR tour?
Their role died with Harrier and / or WW2, they have no role, good chaps one and all I am sure, but what is the point of the RAF Regt.?????????
 
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Their role died with Harrier and / or WW2, they have no role, good chaps one and all I am sure, but what is the point of the RAF Regt.?????????
Make everyone else look good?
 

Mr_Fingerz

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what is the point of the RAF Regt.?????????
Airfield and low level AD.

And since the RA has opted for more UAV rather than HVM/Rapier/Bofors 40/70 its something that (currently) only they are equipped to do.
 
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As much as I like laying into The Short Range Desert Group an interesting point is made every time and its now my turn.

Who the fcuk really wants to stag on an airfield for 6 months?

Now - If we were to properly train all of the corps instead of certain trades we could say everyone is a soldier first and a tradesman second. Then we could say that EVERYBODY who enjoys sleeping in an established camp, such as an airbase should have a role to play in its defence. For Example, covering the stagging on duties so that it only requires very few infanteers/soldiers in an infantry role to provide the local area defence through pro-active patrolling. In the past this has been quite capably left to formed TA companies however could be farmed out to pioneers, tankies, RA, RMP etc.

The army needs to prove it will make the most of what its got before it starts pointing the finger at other forces to chop some of their staff.

To clarify - Please don't lose sleep if I mentioned your lot. I'm not implying you don't work just that your role might not be needed in whatever nonsense war is going on. For example just because we're not engaging T-80's doesn't mean that tankies should have to sit the tour out.
 
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bokkatankie

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Airfield and low level AD.

And since the RA has opted for more UAV rather than HVM/Rapier/Bofors 40/70 its something that (currently) only they are equipped to do.
There will be plenty of RA Regiments looking for a job very soon, the point is that they are no less expendable than any other unit and yet they seem to survive cut after cut, they have had more re-inventions than a cortina and yet unlike the cortina they still remain as a a pointless ageing pile of scrap that should have been removed along time ago.
 

Joker62

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bokkatankie said:
There will be plenty of RA Regiments looking for a job very soon, the point is that they are no less expendable than any other unit and yet they seem to survive cut after cut, they have had more re-inventions than a cortina and yet unlike the cortina they still remain as a a pointless ageing pile of scrap that should have been removed along time ago.
Really ? If anyone is a true survivor then its the Royal Regiment, its our ability to adapt and evolve that will mean we will be around for a very long time
in ever increasing numbers.

Here's a solution, why not sack the RAC ? Recce elements held with the RA, HCR merge with the RHA and backload Challenger to the TA

Job done :eek:)

At least there will be a lot less god awful trousers kicking about
 
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As much as I like laying into The Short Range Desert Group an interesting point is made every time and its now my turn.

Who the fcuk really wants to stag on an airfield for 6 months?

Now - If we were to properly train all of the corps instead of certain trades we could say everyone is a soldier first and a tradesman second. Then we could say that EVERYBODY who enjoys sleeping in an established camp, such as an airbase should have a role to play in its defence. For Example, covering the stagging on duties so that it only requires very few infanteers/soldiers in an infantry role to provide the local area defence through pro-active patrolling. In the past this has been quite capably left to formed TA companies however could be farmed out to pioneers, tankies, RA, RMP etc.

The army needs to prove it will make the most of what its got before it starts pointing the finger at other forces to chop some of their staff.

To clarify - Please don't lose sleep if I mentioned your lot. I'm not implying you don't work just that your role might not be needed in whatever nonsense war is going on. For example just because we're not engaging T-80's doesn't mean that tankies should have to sit the tour out.
dont see the problem with this, its exactly what happened at SLB, so other than the AD why not reduce the RAF Regt and keep more inf, or if you've got to keep the RAF Regt to soothe the in-fighting at the MoD then start using them in roles other than expensively trained stags.

we're always told how well trained the RAF Regt are so get them doing more.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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With what?

Edited for grammar.
Sorry, forgot that they'd had rapier taken away. Presumably they now use rocks in slings (see what I did there?).
 
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Mr_Fingerz said:
And since the RA has opted for more UAV rather than HVM/Rapier/Bofors 40/70 its something that (currently) only they are equipped to do.
Define "they"

If you mean RA then ok, but the sentence doesn't make sense

If you meant RAF then ok, sentence makes sense, with the one noticeable exception that the RAF have no AD capabilit beyond Machine Gun

Also exactly when was the Bofors gun last in service within the Army ?
 
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Time to release Ghurkas,commonwealth soldiers, airborne brigades, and lets just stick to infantry and arty seems the consensus so far then? and we will only need 1 division really, the TA wil take care of the rest. there thats it all sorted for any government
 
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bokkatankie

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Really ? If anyone is a true survivor then its the Royal Regiment, its our ability to adapt and evolve that will mean we will be around for a very long time
in ever increasing numbers.

Here's a solution, why not sack the RAC ? Recce elements held with the RA, HCR merge with the RHA and backload Challenger to the TA

Job done :eek:)

At least there will be a lot less god awful trousers kicking about
Yes well done you have survived since 1941.

As to your other points, whilst I cannot foresee or define, the direction of and equipment of the post cuts army; my fear is that it will the normal fudge and bugger along as normal.

But there should be no sacred cows, be that Cavalry, RTR, RA, Inf or any other arm or service, we live in a time when every unit will have to be looked at in detail.

My point is that, as you call it "the Royal Regiment", is simply not worthwhile in the modern context. What it does can be done within an Army and operational structure and the continued expense of duplicated effort and expenditure is simply not worth it. Sadly the same goes for the RM and as I have said elsewhere other units and ams where duplication exists.

What I would like to see is 3 service chiefs sitting down and deciding on priorities and not inter-service, inter-regiment and inter-arm tradition mumbo-jumbo.
 

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