MoD to scrap barracks upgrade.

#3
They wouldn't house asylum seekers in most of the conditions soldiers live in.
Thats because of standards for human habitation. Sums up what the govt think of the lads really
 
#4
Probably means that, following Herrick endex, the Army will be slashed in size - thus fitting into the real estate refurbished to date.
 
#5
cut and paste from the article.

"Christina Schmid, whose husband Staff Sergeant Olaf Schmid, a bomb disposal expert, was killed on his final day at the front in Afghanistan, told the Sunday Times: “Army accommodation is such a lottery. I have had some dire quarters and some that are half-decent. They shouldn’t be furnished out in bling but they should have a good standard of accommodation which is uniform across the board.”
She added: “I feel strongly that if we can’t afford our army and we can’t look after them, then we need to stop being in conflict.”

About sums it up really. I remember my first pad when I got married had the same shitty metal framed windows in as the one i grew up in in the 70's. pile of shite, stayed in it under a year and went out and bought a house (that ****ing upset some people)
 
#6
Sunday Times running the same story, with the same quote.
 
#7
The article claims that 'Ministers will face charges of hypocrisy over the about-turn in improving the soldiers’ homes.' Surely that could never happen?
 
#8
Can't imagine why - it's not as if we are in the depths of a global recession and the Defence Budget is still massively over-spent ...................... errrrr hang on.
 
#9
Last two SFA we've had have been brand new bulk hirings. Look very shiny and new but typical new builds, very flimsy and not fit for purpose at all.

No storage, no garden but bedrooms are ensuite!
 
#10
Seriously though. Who was stupid enough to expect any different?
 
#11
cut and paste from the article.
She added: “I feel strongly that if we can’t afford our army and we can’t look after them, then we need to stop being in conflict.”
The Gov't would love to oblige, especially HM Treasury. All the Armed Forces bring is PR grief, awkward questions and bad news stories.
 
#13
The Gov't would love to oblige, especially HM Treasury. All the Armed Forces bring is PR grief, awkward questions and bad news stories.
Au contraire, let's not forget how good they look when all dressed up and marching around to impress Johnny Foreigner during state visits!
 
#14
Nah, that can be outsourced.....
 
#15
Seriously, the only "good news" stories I can think of involving the Armed Forces are the MACP types; everything else is unremittingly negative.

Am I being too cynical?
 
#16
OK I expect a bit of flak for this but here goes. As an aside, I've never had a pad but own my own place and have done for about 12 years.

Pads pay peanuts for their quarters. As a whole the standard seems to have gone up exponentially in my time in the Army. Obviously there are some bad ones and I dont believe that anyone should have to settle for that but if across the board people paid more rent then there would be more in the coffers for refurbing those that need it.
 
#17
From my perspective, its a shame, but as the saying goes ' show me the money'. There is no money in the system, defence is flat broke and its a case of either cut this, or cut some weapon systems. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Of course, the pads/singlies could always do what most other people do and rent/buy a house at market rates which meets their requirements (except for dodgy landlords charging through the nose, not doing any repairs and generally giving the same experience as DHE but for twice the price?).
 
#18
Pads pay peanuts for their quarters. As a whole the standard seems to have gone up exponentially in my time in the Army. Obviously there are some bad ones and I dont believe that anyone should have to settle for that but if across the board people paid more rent then there would be more in the coffers for refurbing those that need it.
SFA is cheaper because pads aren't paying to line someone's pockets or to pay of their mortgage. The rent for an army quarter is more than sufficient to pay for the upkeep of the quarter.
 
#19
Bit of luck the SLAM blocks are nearly ready here in Fally; Should get a couple of years use out of them before we all bug out of BFG :)
 
#20
SFA is cheaper because pads aren't paying to line someone's pockets or to pay of their mortgage. The rent for an army quarter is more than sufficient to pay for the upkeep of the quarter.
And due to the nature of armed forces life we are essentially forced in to 'hiring' our homes (even if we own our own).
 

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