MoD spinning out of control?

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  1. The Herald
    Soldiers criticise MoD over ‘spin’ put on attitude survey
    IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent May 04 2007

    Serving soldiers yesterday poured scorn on an upbeat Ministry of Defence "attitude survey" which claimed that 78% of officers and 59% of other ranks were satisfied with their working life.

    It has since emerged that only 5.6% of the Army's 95,270 personnel were canvassed for their opinions and that fewer than one in three of those approached bothered to respond. Of the soldiers issued with survey forms, 1258 were officers and just 619 enlisted ranks.

    The MoD claimed from the result that morale was "high" and that the majority of troops thought the frequency of operational tours to Iraq and Afghanistan was either "about right" or "too few". Welcoming publication of the survey's results, Derek Twigg, a junior defence minister, added that the armed services remained "a top quality employer" and that soldiers were "trained and equipped for the job".

    One soldier who contacted The Herald said: "These surveys are worse than useless.

    It is all spin and unreality. It is made clear to anyone involved that answers must be positive and pro-active, which defeats the object of the entire exercise."

    Another said: "It would be interesting to find out how many of the officers who completed forms are in comfy staff posts and how many serving in the field in hot sandy places.

    "Even if anyone believed the spin, it still means that 22% of our officers are less than content with their military lot and that 41% of other ranks are really hacked off with back- to-back tours, clapped-out equipment and shoddy accommodation."

    The survey, part of a process introduced last September to monitor grass-roots opinion across the armed forces, has been transformed into a statistical propaganda tool for government ministers, sources say.

    "It's another triumph for spin and distortion," one officer said. Try telling the guys patrolling in vulnerable Snatch Land Rovers or light armoured vehicles in Basra and Helmand that there are too few operational tours."

    The MoD said: "These surveys offer a useful snapshot of attitudes. They help the armed forces target issues that concern our people and inform changes in policy and new initiatives."

    http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/other/display.var.1375584.0.0.php

    Who does the Mod serve these days?
     
  2. Cnuts. But then you knew that.
     
  3. Taking the general tone of posters here into consideration, the blokes who claimed to be satisfied must be really really convincing
     
  4. chimera

    chimera LE Moderator

    The Continuous Attitude Survey has been around for years. It is - self evidently - ongoing, so samples only a random selection of people. A one off survey may not therefore by representative, but over time it will be.

    We should also be careful what we wish for when using the results of opinion polling in the forces. Pay as You Dine was first conceived in the mid/late 90s as a result of opinion polling of junior ranks.
     
  5. Sympathetic_Reaction

    Sympathetic_Reaction LE Book Reviewer

    The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
     
  6. I'd be more worried if the blokes weren't moaning. Being a soldier is the original 'glass half empty' job isn't it?
     
  7. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
    1. Battlefield Tours

  8. So that will be question B in the survey then!

    9% of the officers and 10% of the soldiers who responded were based in hot and sandy conditions!

    Litotes
     
  9. Goatman

    Goatman LE Book Reviewer

    It's a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.......but I suspect the beef is over the presentation rather than the findings.

    How many Arrsers have seen or indeed GOT a 'Mushroom Management' poster [ " Kept in the dark and fed Bullsh1t !" ] in their place of work?.....I've seen plenty.

    OK so how many of the same people GOT a CAS request and were either too busy to return it, forgot or just couldn't be Arrsed ?

    So? The fact that you are p1ssed off and far from home hasn't been registered then ? And this surprises ....who ?

    As has been stated, the Army's Continuous Attitude Survey has been around for ages - not 'Introduced by your benevolent ,caring and concerned (largely Scottish) Liabour Govt in September last year'

    I don't think anyone serving believes everything in the garden is rosy - but , sorry Media people, there are also still people around the place who enjoy the career and are prepared to confess it ....which of course does not fit the storyline they are pushing.

    Ah the Fourth Estate - bless......( where's my Webley......?)


    Don Cabra