MoD spends £9m at Priory clinics

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  1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5018156.stm


    Quote: "The Ministry of Defence has spent £9.3m in three years to send members of the armed forces to psychiatric clinics more commonly linked to celebrities.
    The sum covered assessments and treatment at the Priory Clinic Group.

    Junior defence minister Tom Watson - responding to a Commons written question - said this compared to £10m in one year for the previous provider.

    Chai Patel, who founded the Priory, was among the wealthy benefactors who made controversial secret loans to Labour.

    He was nominated for a peerage by the Prime Minister but withdrew his name after claims he was blocked by the House of Lords Appointments Commission.

    The MoD's contract for the services had been put out to tender in response to the expense of services provided by the MoD's own Duchess of Kent's Psychiatric Hospital..."


    As the NHS is constantly being asked to justify its spending, possibly an informed ARRSEr might like to comment on how many military personnel have been treated for this princely sum. I would ask the MOD, but know that they struggle with numbers. :?
     
  2. or hercules foam...
     
  3. I understood the cost of providing care at DKPH to be in the region of £2.5 million PA. The figure of £10 million refers to the cost of running the entire Duchess of Kent's Psychiatric Hospital site (a great deal more than mental health care went on there). Therefore, the cost of Priory care exceeds that of care at DKPH. I am happy to be corrected on this.

    Historically, admissions of Service personnel to mental health facilities vary around 300-400 per year historically.

    Incidentally, if you were in bed next to Kate Moss in your jimmy jams, looking forward to a round of golf and champagne oysters with sea bream on a bed of dill and rocket for your lunch, would you be motivated to return to unit!!! :D
     
  4. NR, thanks for your post and welcome to ARRSE. You've confirmed my initial thoughts that the £10m mentioned was an apples and pears comparison.

    Knowing my luck, I'd wake up next to Pete Docherty! I have however been treated by many an RSM to a rocket at lunchtime, or any other time it took their' fancy.
     
  5. The Priory Hospital is the old Military Psychiatric Hospital at Marchwood Priory isn't it? In the early 70's, we used to consign all of our gay servicemen there to be "converted".
     
  6. Marchwood Priory is just one of them. They are country-wide.
     
  7. I pass the Marchwood Priory everyday, a lovley mansion of a building...
     
  8. To North Sea from Town Gas? :D
     
  9. Having personally experienced the military psychiatric system as it was (DKMH) I feel that the service provided was good but a little impractical for personnel based in the south of the country. Travelling up to Catterick for a day clinic assessment is hardly practical and for patients who require residential care staying close to you colleagues or familiar surroundings greatly assists rehabilitation. The Priory clinics address both of these concerns by being nationwide.

    The other problem with DKMH was shortage of beds. When I was initially admitted to DKMH there were no beds available so I ended up in the Newcastle Nuffield private hospital, a similar organisation to The Priory.

    The only problem I can see with The Priory is the feeling of being disconnected from the military, something that in itself could make someone already feeling depressed feel even more alone and left to fend for themselves.

    Hopefully psychiatric care in the forces will improve with the recent revelations aired on Channel 4 and also better acceptance and understanding by service personnel will result. The mind is easier broken than limbs but when legs are broken, casts are fitted and signed and everyone has a good laugh. When minds are broken patients are often shunned as 'nutters' and kept at arms length by colleagues.
     
  10. ViroBono

    ViroBono LE Moderator

    Of course, the keen inquirer might also like to know why the NHS were not even asked to submit a bid for this contract.

    Another statistic that would be useful to know is how long patient stays at the Priory Group are compared to DKH.
     
  11. The NHS probably did not bid because the provision of mental health services was the first to take a massive hit it the freefall to save money and reduce the huge deficit.

    There doesn't seem to be any intention to hack away at the bureacracy and middle management that soaks up vast quantities of funds - most of the last injection of hundreds of millions of moolahs went on increased administration. The consultants KPMG have been brought in as advisers [at how many £squillions per day?].

    No, it is cheaper to close residence facilities and release the mentally ill into society under supervision. Trouble is, the supervision has been severely cut back as well. Hence the headline that abound weekly...

    However, I would make the point that this thread sprung up as a discussion about MoD spending huge sums of money on the provision of psychiatric support for the men and women who have succumbed to some degree of mental illness. Strikes me that it is the Forces looking after their own [and good for them].

    The worst day in the Armed Forces was when some knurled gnome decided to decimate a well-organised and supported Military Medical Service. At one time, VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING could be treated in military hospitals dotted around the country. I seem to remember that Wroughton was the psychiatric hospital...
     
  12. I had the dubious honour of "moving" (probably better described as dismantling) BMH Munster and then then moving 5 Armoured Field Ambulance back to the UK. Every time an Army medic saw me or one of my staff appear on the scene - they would vanish like startled rabbits. A bit disconcerting when I had to go and see the doctor. :?
     
  13. ViroBono

    ViroBono LE Moderator

    We shall never know, because the NHS wasn't even asked to bid.


    Originally the Neuropsychiatric Centre (NPC) at PARAF(H) Wroughton, then joint RAF/Army. There were others.
     


  14. Top Post :D
     
  15. I wish my experience of the Army mental health system was not at all positive. All the CPN wanted to do was help me get out the Army for tempermentality, although this is not what I wanted, and not what happened, either. Then, when I suggested to him my depression may have been caused by ADHD (some members of my family have it), I was basically laughed at and told by the CPN(!) that it does not exist. Granted the CPN was ex-RAF, but he had experience of working with Autistic children, so I would expect him to have had some knowledge of ADHD (Like Dyslexia, ADHD is part of Autistic Spectrum Disorders).

    Then I get assessed in Civi street and I am told I have ADHD...

    edited to say the crap CPN was a fat bloke who works at the LI camp in Paderborn.