MOD Plod.

#2



Sack himself and save even more money.
 
#3
Looks like I transferred to the Met just in time, I knew things were going to be tight ie no overtime for anything sickness training etc but not that bad. Its probably the sun ramping it up a bit but having spoken to former colleagues in the MDP things are not looking good, the nuke sites were the safe ones.
 
#5
Boney2728 said:
I wonder if the MGS will be included in this ?
Seems to a shortage of them currently… gapped posts, natural wastage etc I suspect.
 
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I think you will find that the problem lies with duplication and varying costs. Currently there are four agencies responsible for guarding the MOD Estate:

Regular Service Personnel,
MPGS,
MOD Police and
MOD Guard Service

That’s four lots of training, four different pay scales, four sets of Ts & Cs, four set’s of equipment and most importantly four Chains of Command with all the involved costs, meetings and Staff Work.

I very much doubt this will be the last of it but MOD Police probably took the first hit as they are the most expensive. There's a thought, they could expand the cheapest option.
 
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western said:
I think you will find that the problem lies with duplication and varying costs. Currently there are four agencies responsible for guarding the MOD Estate:

Regular Service Personnel,
MPGS,
MOD Police and
MOD Guard Service

That’s four lots of training, four different pay scales, four sets of Ts & Cs, four set’s of equipment and most importantly four Chains of Command with all the involved costs, meetings and Staff Work.

I very much doubt this will be the last of it but MOD Police probably took the first hit as they are the most expensive. There's a thought, they could expand the cheapest option.

4 sets of dogs
 
#9
Ah well at least there is one silver lining to the dark clouds of National bancruptcy.

Like the way the article was followed by an ad for cutting away 3 inches of belly fat - how apt!
 
#10
:? Am i the only one thats a bit lost here,here we are fighting a war at great cost in life and money,being told we need ID cards, being spyed on night and day,and having no end of rights taken away,all because of the threat of terrorist attack,and someone wants to cut the force that protects all the major target sites?
 
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br9mp81 said:
:? Am i the only one thats a bit lost here,here we are fighting a war at great cost in life and money,being told we need ID cards, being spyed on night and day,and having no end of rights taken away,all because of the threat of terrorist attack,and someone wants to cut the force that protects all the major target sites?

There ya go, all smoke and mirrors.

Corrupt regimes need an outside 'threat' to distract the public from what a bad job they are doing, this 'threat' also allows them to bring in control measures to make sure they can keep tabs on anyone who dissents.


IF, we were under such a big threat from Islamic terror the real question is… Why has Neue Arbiet not sent the army into the towns in the north of England were all our bombers come from?
 
#12
[quote="?[/quote] Why has Neue Arbiet not sent the army into the towns in the north of England were all our bombers come from?[/quote]

Because that's a Nu-Labia support area?
 
#13
Oil_Slick said:
IF, we were under such a big threat from Islamic terror the real question is… Why has Neue Arbiet not sent the army into the towns in the north of England were all our bombers come from?
Who says they haven't? :?
 
#15
The armed forces are policed by four separate police forces (five if you include the Home Office police), all requiring separate hierarchies, policy staffs and other support services. While the MDP, RNP, RMP and RAFP have differing responsibilities, their primary role (i.e. policing the armed forces and the defence estate) is the same. I would be very surprised if the Strategic Defence Review does not recommend the amalgamation of policing services throughout the MOD. If it can be done in Cyprus, Gib and FI, why can it not work throughout the rest of the armed forces? I appreciate the MDP are a civil police agency, rather than a service police body, however, a bit of legislative tinkering would solve that problem.
 
#16
Six if you include the Sovereign Base Police in Cyprus (Ch Const, Deputy, UK and local officers ...kerching!)
 
#17
sebcoe said:
western said:
I think you will find that the problem lies with duplication and varying costs. Currently there are four agencies responsible for guarding the MOD Estate:

Regular Service Personnel,
MPGS,
MOD Police and
MOD Guard Service

That’s four lots of training, four different pay scales, four sets of Ts & Cs, four set’s of equipment and most importantly four Chains of Command with all the involved costs, meetings and Staff Work.

I very much doubt this will be the last of it but MOD Police probably took the first hit as they are the most expensive. There's a thought, they could expand the cheapest option.

4 sets of dogs
The LFGR which I understand is due out about early December will/should highlight & clarify any future proposals of the Guarding Reforms within the UK

The MDP/MGS has suspended overtime & recruitment to deal with their fiscal deficit, An newly appointed MDP friend told me recently Its proposed (don't have a link sorry) the CNC & MDP merge to save money??

We all know the MOD is skint & the pen pushers are looking 'at' every possible area to cut back, only time will tell what the final outcome is.
 
#18
Herrumph said:
Six if you include the Sovereign Base Police in Cyprus (Ch Const, Deputy, UK and local officers ...kerching!)
...who are busy policing the almost entirely law abiding population of the SBAs at a ratio that far exceeds that with which the Met polices London.
 
#20
Booty said:
While the MDP, RNP, RMP and RAFP have differing responsibilities, their primary role (i.e. policing the armed forces and the defence estate) is the same.
Just a small correction there Booty, RMP primary role is to police and provide police support to the force on operations. MOD Police and HOPF don't do this and are unlikely to take on this responsibility as it entails a whole raft of tasks that they aren't into.

The in-garrison policing is a secondary role and supports operations through the maintenance of policing skill sets. I imagine the other service police agencies would have similar thoughts about their operational role but I'm just guessing. Interesting point about streamlining the roles though and one that has some real validity in my opinion.
 

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