MOD places order for 80,000 tonnes of steel for carriers

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#3
slimjim said:
Steel is bloomin expensive!
Chinese are buying up a huge chunk of World supply, someone should thank tha guy who pushed it through now, in a year or 2 it could be 10-20% higher again.
 
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petergriffen said:
slimjim said:
Steel is bloomin expensive!
Chinese are buying up a huge chunk of World supply, someone should thank tha guy who pushed it through now, in a year or 2 it could be 10-20% higher again.
The steel will get sold off in a year. The profit will pay for a P2000 to replace the carrier project.
 
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RHODESIAN said:
They will be coming for our railing's again soon then by the sound of things
From what I have red most of the railings taken at the start of WW2 were dumped in the North Sea after the war ended.
 
#9
it works out at £812:50p a tonnes.

thats not a bad price to be honest. i'm not sure what steels are needed in ship building, but £812 a tonne favours well compered to todays structural steel prices.
 
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Invicta said:
Posted on the MOD website today. A £65 million order had been placed with Corus for 80,000 tonnes of steel for the 2 new aircraft carriers.

Click on the link for full story.

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/D...onnesOfSteelOrderedForNewAircraftCarriers.htm

It also details orders of other equipment for the ships.
"Contracts for supply of steel plates and bulb flats have been awarded to Corus (with UK sites in Scunthorpe, Teesside and Motherwell) and Dent Steel Services (Yorkshire) Ltd. The vast majority of steel tonnage (90% or more) will be produced in the UK with some smaller quantities being produced in Europe."

What's the betting that the EU will get involved and demand that more work is passed onto our European partners as was the case in the second Severn Bridge. In the end the contract for the steel had to be placed with an Italian supplier who submitted the lowest bid but did not have the capacity or expertise. Most of the steel thus supplied was substandard the end of it was the cost of the steel for the bridge was over-budget and late.
 
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AT55 said:
RHODESIAN said:
They will be coming for our railing's again soon then by the sound of things
From what I have red most of the railings taken at the start of WW2 were dumped in the North Sea after the war ended.



I wouldn't be surprised mate!
 
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AT55 said:
Invicta said:
Posted on the MOD website today. A £65 million order had been placed with Corus for 80,000 tonnes of steel for the 2 new aircraft carriers.

Click on the link for full story.

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/D...onnesOfSteelOrderedForNewAircraftCarriers.htm

It also details orders of other equipment for the ships.
"Contracts for supply of steel plates and bulb flats have been awarded to Corus (with UK sites in Scunthorpe, Teesside and Motherwell) and Dent Steel Services (Yorkshire) Ltd. The vast majority of steel tonnage (90% or more) will be produced in the UK with some smaller quantities being produced in Europe."

What's the betting that the EU will get involved and demand that more work is passed onto our European partners as was the case in the second Severn Bridge. In the end the contract for the steel had to be placed with an Italian supplier who submitted the lowest bid but did not have the capacity or expertise. Most of the steel thus supplied was substandard the end of it was the cost of the steel for the bridge was over-budget and late.
Military equipment is exempt from the relegations about competition (or at least it was when the Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency (civilian) had to accept a tender from Poland while the RN FP vessels could be awarded to a UK shipyard without such issues).
 
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ninja-lewis said:
AT55 said:
Invicta said:
Posted on the MOD website today. A £65 million order had been placed with Corus for 80,000 tonnes of steel for the 2 new aircraft carriers.

Click on the link for full story.

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/D...onnesOfSteelOrderedForNewAircraftCarriers.htm

It also details orders of other equipment for the ships.
"Contracts for supply of steel plates and bulb flats have been awarded to Corus (with UK sites in Scunthorpe, Teesside and Motherwell) and Dent Steel Services (Yorkshire) Ltd. The vast majority of steel tonnage (90% or more) will be produced in the UK with some smaller quantities being produced in Europe."

What's the betting that the EU will get involved and demand that more work is passed onto our European partners as was the case in the second Severn Bridge. In the end the contract for the steel had to be placed with an Italian supplier who submitted the lowest bid but did not have the capacity or expertise. Most of the steel thus supplied was substandard the end of it was the cost of the steel for the bridge was over-budget and late.
Military equipment is exempt from the relegations about competition (or at least it was when the Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency (civilian) had to accept a tender from Poland while the RN FP vessels could be awarded to a UK shipyard without such issues).
I bow to our superior knowledge Ninja however as the French are sniffing around these contracts, I would not rule out the EU putting its nose in.
 
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Why are the MoD buying hte steel?

If I buy a new car I don't pop down to the local DIY for metal, tools and plastic do I?

Einemal Aircraft Carrier bitte, mit pommes und weise. And get a jaldi on.
 
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Anyone know why the carriers are being equipped with an angled flight -deck given that they also have a "ski-ramp" at the bow? That's what's shown on the first illustration anyway, though the second one doesn't seem to have the angled deck, WTF?
 
#17
just one word............... TATA,
I would have my doubts about 90% being produced at the UK corus sites , lets face it India has lower production costs, much lower.
And they are a well established defence contractor too. I recon they will be the prime raw plate supplier. I would like to be wrong for the sake of our own industry.

WW
 
#18
Jaeger said:
Anyone know why the carriers are being equipped with an angled flight -deck given that they also have a "ski-ramp" at the bow? That's what's shown on the first illustration anyway, though the second one doesn't seem to have the angled deck, WTF?
The idea is that the RN vessels will be fitted to support the STOVL JSF but there is a possibility of a third carrier being built for the Frogs that would be conventional with catapults.

The angled flight deck is for landing on I believe. I'm not sure what the actual carriers will look like every artist impression I've seen has been different.

Still don't understand why we are only having 2 built really it should be three. (If I was PM it would be five + escort group).
 
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The angled deck is part of the 'future proofing' of the ship. Although we are currently saying that we want the B-model, STOVL JSF, there is a chance that we may instead choose the C-model CTOL naval variant which is rather more capable than the B-model. Having the angled deck means that you can, even if you start out operating STOVL types, later move to CTOL, without having to spend millions fitting an angled deck. It also gives a much bigger parking area on a STOVL carrier, potentially allowing a deck park for larger SH types.
 

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