MOD Announce Additional Gurkha Inf Bn

#81
If we can't recruit enough home grown soldiers from the UK we could do a lot worse than pay for some more Gurkhas.
Sorry to disagree, why spend more on foreigners when we have plenty of them here already. Cut off Nepal, recruit from those living here regardless of ethnicity and stop the rubbish myths.
 
#82
Ugly, I must take issue, much of the above is patently false. BG units face exactly the same auditing as everyone else, they can (or would) no more cook books than the medics.. They are not more expensive than UK recruits. The working language of the BG has not been Nepali for many years. They are recrutable, give long service, outperform in some respects, perform very well on Ops, provide significant manning longevity and have better deployability stats than pretty much every other unit in the Army. It's not required to like them, but there really is some bollocks being talked on here from what appears to be very legacy knowledge of Gurkhas. The reason we have them is they are valuable and right now, irreplaceable - despite that decade where shirts in and out was handled badly, the Army leadership tends not to be completely ignorant of what works.
The potential Nepalese recruits you refer to in the UK do join the Army and serve as UKTAP - they may not join in the UK and become Gurkhas.
Those in the know to whom you refer, routinely are not.
I have seen evidence of them fiddling married quarter returns, Unit Rolls and other such items.
This is fact. They are protected by their officers. There could be a place for Gurkhas, plenty of them born here now and they should at least speak english!
 
#84
Sorry to disagree, why spend more on foreigners when we have plenty of them here already. Cut off Nepal, recruit from those living here regardless of ethnicity and stop the rubbish myths.
Why would a second generation British citizen of nepalese origin want to join the British Army when they can go to college/university/take drugs/do flute all like all the others that don't want to join? How much have we just spent on recruiting literally nobody? Anything spent on a recruiting train that delivers as good as 100% is better than we've done in the UK.
 
#85
Why would a second generation British citizen of nepalese origin want to join the British Army when they can go to college/university/take drugs/do flute all like all the others that don't want to join? How much have we just spent on recruiting literally nobody? Anything spent on a recruiting train that delivers as good as 100% is better than we've done in the UK.
Then dont recruit ethnic nepalese at all!
 
#87
Anything spent on a recruiting train that delivers as good as 100% is better than we've done in the UK.
They mainly want to join because they can earn 25 x their yearly wage in the UK plus get free health care and education.
We can go to any poor country in the world and offer them a way out of poverty. Have you noticed that there is a lack of Canucks/Aussies/Kiwis among our commonwealth brethren? Possibly because our wages aren't so great compared to theirs.
 
#89
Have you noticed that there is a lack of Canucks/Aussies/Kiwis among our commonwealth brethren? Possibly because our wages aren't so great compared to theirs.
Up to a point - plenty of all 3 in the RN. Largely because of the kit and the deployments, i.e. the offer, rather than the wages.

Sample quote from my duty Canadian serving in the RN when asked why he wasn't in the RCN - "have you seen the RCN?"

But for soldiering, especially given Afghan in recent years, if you're Canuck/Aussie/Kiwi and want a scrap, why wouldn't you just join your local mob?
 
#90
They mainly want to join because they can earn 25 x their yearly wage in the UK plus get free health care and education.
We can go to any poor country in the world and offer them a way out of poverty. Have you noticed that there is a lack of Canucks/Aussies/Kiwis among our commonwealth brethren? Possibly because our wages aren't so great compared to theirs.
And your point is?
 
#92
And your point is?
That it's a pretty shit idea to recruit foreigners only due to them living in poverty rather than make the Army worthwhile for Brits to serve in.
 
#93
That’s down to a bit of history that you’re not going to change. We’ve got a recruiting crisis if you hadn’t noticed and at least we’re doing something that will actually up the numbers.
Yet still treasury wants cuts, can't have both, Gurkha's cost more, it doesn't make sense to recruit them. Bin them all and have a smaller army/defence force.
 
#94
So we're recruiting even more wee men from a hard core Maoist country into racially exclusive anachronistic outfits who teeter on the verge of mutiny and disaffection on a regular basis - which their CoC cover up with monotonous regularity?

Bloody sad..... though not as sad as the fact we can't introduce an attractive enough package to induce enough men and women from an indigenous population of almost 66million to fill the ranks of a pitifully small 'Army' of 82,000!
 
#97
The Army is alright to serve in, it’s just that no one wants to anymore. There’s no money to pay to make it better either so what other options, available right now, are there?
It clearly isn't alright to serve in otherwise we wouldn't have such shit retention would we?
No matter let's just bribe people living I poverty rather than sort out the problems we have, its much easier and then we can claim recruiting is up.
 
#98
It clearly isn't alright to serve in otherwise we wouldn't have such shit retention would we?
No matter let's just bribe people living I poverty rather than sort out the problems we have, its much easier and then we can claim recruiting is up.
You can’t sort out our problems without a lot of money, we don’t have any. Whilst retention isn’t good the voluntary outflow is only a couple of percentage points above where it is on a good day. Also, no one is being bribed to do anything and it’s disingenuous to say so.
 
#99
You can’t sort out our problems without a lot of money, we don’t have any. Whilst retention isn’t good the voluntary outflow is only a couple of percentage points above where it is on a good day. Also, no one is being bribed to do anything and it’s disingenuous to say so.
Money? Have you read FYB lately? In the year 2019 the Army still tries to steal from its soldiers by threatening them with working late if they dont contribute to a leaving gift.
A pay rise would be nice but not treating soldiers like cnuts is cheaper, easier and would probably have a better effect on retention.
 
Money? Have you read FYB lately? In the year 2019 the Army still tries to steal from its soldiers by threatening them with working late if they dont contribute to a leaving gift.
A pay rise would be nice but not treating soldiers like cnuts is cheaper, easier and would probably have a better effect on retention.
Eh, there’s nothing you can do about incidents like that, because we employ people that are thick as **** and we always will.
 

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