Mobilisation Questions. Accomodation and PAYD

#1
If all goes according to plan (?) I should be mobilising in November 2010, firstly to go to Chilwell, then OPTAG somewhere else, leave over Christmas before joining a regular unit in Germany as an IR in January, expecting to deploy after training in about March or April I should think - haven't had details of that.

Do I get charged accommodation through all this period? I'm assuming PAYD will apply. If so, how much is it likely to be?
 
#4
I paid something like £40 - £45 per month for 4 man room. Wouldn't mind but I spent most the 4 months PDT in transt camps and spta
 
#5
Just as an aside, what's the situation with married personnel 'living in' nowadays? At one time if you were married you didn't pay for your room etc.
 
#7
timpegasus said:
Right when you re here at RTMC you wont pay for your meals as you will get a free feeder card for all meals as you are mobilised!
Thanks for that Tim.

If that is the reasoning then does that principle carry across to training with the regular unit in Germany?

Any idea on accommodation charges?

Do regulars get charged accommodation when mobilised or posted elsewhere if they have their own home at their Regimental/Bn Depot? Anyone in barracks won't get charged for two locations I presume.... :?
 

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#8
EX_STAB said:
timpegasus said:
Right when you re here at RTMC you wont pay for your meals as you will get a free feeder card for all meals as you are mobilised!
Thanks for that Tim.

If that is the reasoning then does that principle carry across to training with the regular unit in Germany?

Any idea on accommodation charges?

Do regulars get charged accommodation when mobilised or posted elsewhere if they have their own home at their Regimental/Bn Depot? Anyone in barracks won't get charged for two locations I presume.... :?
It really depends on the type of accommodation you're billeted in. When we joined our Regular battalion the camp was absolutely heaving due to the number of sprogs who had been posted in straight out of depot. All of us augmentees posted in just for the tour, were housed in the transit accommodation in the Training area next to the camp. The building was ghastly, but free. Depending on manning at your receiving battalion, you may find yourself in a similar position.
 
#9
Yes PAYD in deuchland and accomodation charges apply whilst your there ( unless like above and your in transit). However you will get paid LOA from the day you arrive to the day you deploy, which comes in handy and you can make use of a favourable forces exchange rate too.
 
#12
squigeypie said:
Yes PAYD in deuchland and accomodation charges apply whilst your there ( unless like above and your in transit). However you will get paid LOA from the day you arrive to the day you deploy, which comes in handy and you can make use of a favourable forces exchange rate too.
What's LOA then? Don't know that one.
 
#13
EX_STAB said:
putteesinmyhands said:
To take it one stage further, would Ex-Stab be entitled to a MQ?
Don't start being silly :)
At first glance it may look silly, but if you're paying PAYD, doesn't it infer that it's a permanent posting? Somebody else can look it up, but I suspect that either you'd be a free feeder or be entitled to some other perks.
 
#14
EX_STAB said:
squigeypie said:
Yes PAYD in deuchland and accomodation charges apply whilst your there ( unless like above and your in transit). However you will get paid LOA from the day you arrive to the day you deploy, which comes in handy and you can make use of a favourable forces exchange rate too.
What's LOA then? Don't know that one.
You've not served overseas before and haven't heard of Local Overseas Allowance?
 
#15
putteesinmyhands said:
EX_STAB said:
putteesinmyhands said:
To take it one stage further, would Ex-Stab be entitled to a MQ?
Don't start being silly :)
At first glance it may look silly, but if you're paying PAYD, doesn't it infer that it's a permanent posting? Somebody else can look it up, but I suspect that either you'd be a free feeder or be entitled to some other perks.
Fair point, I thought you were just being facetious.

I am inclined to wonder whether a regular who lives in his own home near his unit has to pay accommodation charges when attached temporarily to a different Bn. That is in effect what I'll be doing.
 
#16
putteesinmyhands said:
EX_STAB said:
squigeypie said:
Yes PAYD in deuchland and accomodation charges apply whilst your there ( unless like above and your in transit). However you will get paid LOA from the day you arrive to the day you deploy, which comes in handy and you can make use of a favourable forces exchange rate too.
What's LOA then? Don't know that one.
You've not served overseas before and haven't heard of Local Overseas Allowance?
Correct and Correct. Please explain. :)
 
#17
Local Overseas Allowance: An additional payment, calculated per day, that is intended to cover the increased cost of living when living abroad. Years ago, when abroad, soldiers couldn't easily obtain items that they would consider non-luxury common commodities without paying through the nose. The Army gave an allowance to cover this extra cost.

Times may have changed a bit, with Aldi, Lidl and Netto being common supermarkets in UK and with booze, fags and fuel cheaper in Euroland than in UK, but the allowance still gets paid.

I don't know what it is now, but it used to be quite a substantial amount.


edited to add:

It's out of date (2006), but this'll give you an idea: https://www.armynet.mod.uk/club/nav...ermany+rates&file=/content/arp/dib2007_01.pdf

Some more info re Germany (don't know how up to date it is): https://www.armynet.mod.uk/club/nav...tent/opsdeps/posted20to20germany20booklet.pdf
 
#18
its about 17 quid a day though it might not be that much today, but make sure its temporary LOA and not residual, because with the latter you will get it paid whilst on operations, and when you get back to rtmc they take it straight back off you. If that happens kiss goodbye to your OP allowance.
You cant get a MQ but then why would you want to, your classed as Married Unaccompanied and there is another allowance for that, however only regs can get that. Your on mobilised service and not entitled to it. You are intitled to a ration card which you get from the welfare office, you'll need that to buy fags, gin, coffee and whiskey.
 
#20
squigeypie said:
, however only regs can get that.
That is not fully correct. Reservist cannot receive Longer Seperation allowance (LSA) for annual camp or a course in lieu, however are entitle to it for any other occasions one is away from their duty station for more than 10 days of involuntary separation (see below).

JSP 752 Chapter 5

05.0105. Reserve Forces Personnel. Members of the Reserve Forces, and Cadet
Force Adult Volunteers, will be eligible for LSA in line with their Regular counterparts
(but see paragraph 05.0107g).

05.0107g. They are Reservists attending annual camp or courses in lieu of camp as part of their mandatory training under Section 22 RFA 96 in order to qualify for bounty.

When I was mobilised, as I was married, I received Level 1 LSA whilst with the unit I was mobilised to (BAOR).

Whilst on ops all personnel, whether married or not should get LSA. The level you get is determine by the amount of previous qualifying days you have. (As a general principle, it is paid at increasing amounts in order to target those who experience the most separation throughout their service)

The current rates are as follows:

Longer Separation Allowance with effect from 1 Apr 09
LEVEL QUALIFYING PERIOD DAILY RATE
Level 1 Up to 340 days qualifying separation £6.56
Level 2 341 - 580 days £10.25
Level 3 581 – 820 days £13.96
Level 4 821 – 1060 days £15.32
Level 5 1061 – 1300 days £16.50
Level 6 1301 – 1540 days £17.68
Level 7 1541 – 1780 days £18.84
Level 8 1781 – 2020 days £20.62
Level 9 2021 – 2260 days £21.80
Level 10 2261 – 2500 days £22.99
Level 11 2501 – 2740 days £24.16
Level 12 2741 – 2980 days £25.34
Level 13 2981 – 3220 days £26.51
Level 14 3221+ days £27.69

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