Mobilisation question- changing unit

#1
Posted on behalf of a friend who can not retrieve arrse password.

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If you have been allocated to a unit (not of ur own regiment) when you get to chillwell is it possible to swap?

I have been told that im going with a TA guard company but I would like to go armoured infantry for the back door in to the regs. cheers
 
#2
If you have a trade, it is possible to do an in theatre transfer. But it all depends on how many of the trade are /are needed at the locations.

As an aside Armoured Infantry is definatly the way to go. :D
 

The_Duke

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#3
Of course you can transfer. Nobody will mind, especially not the adjutants, staff officers, G1 staff etc that have spent hours ensuring that the relevant LSNs are filled with the required number and type of soldier.

Does your friend think that mobilisation is all arranged to suit his career aspirations?

PS Stabby - planning on changing your ID soon since you are now no longer a ST2B and obviously an expert on Armd Inf?
 
#4
The_Duke said:
PS Stabby - planning on changing your ID soon since you are now no longer a ST2B and obviously an expert on Armd Inf?
Last time I checked, I still wasn't a tiffy. Therefore the username is still appropriate.

I wouldn't call myself an expert, but Armoured Inf was a lot better than the other units I was with and saw.
 
#5
The_Duke said:
Of course you can transfer. Nobody will mind, especially not the adjutants, staff officers, G1 staff etc that have spent hours ensuring that the relevant LSNs are filled with the required number and type of soldier.

Does your friend think that mobilisation is all arranged to suit his career aspirations?

PS Stabby - planning on changing your ID soon since you are now no longer a ST2B and obviously an expert on Armd Inf?
duke, im the fella who asked ant to post, now using a mates user.

now i asked over a year ago to be mobilised with an armoured inf battalion. ive waited until now, been told i was going to get it, then i hear they have heard im down for the scots ta coy. no disrespect to those lads, but that is not the job i want to be doing.

I've heard you can be moved about once you get to chillwell if you are unhappy with where theyve put you, and im just trying to get the facts. by the way i am a l/cpl in the infantry, not a trade. cheers
 

The_Duke

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#6
defel's mate,

You are being used in role then.

Inf LCpl in a force protection Coy is what you are being mobilised for, so it is highly unlikely you will be moved unless there is a surplus of JNCOs in the Coy you are being mobilised for (unlikely), and a shortage in the Armd Inf unit (quite possible).

Whether you can sweet talk someone at RTMC to amend your posting order is another matter, but in service terms you are asking to be moved because of personal preference, not misuse of role/training etc.

Ask yourself - if you were them, would you want to redo all of the mobilisation paperwork and find a suitable replacement at that late stage because the LCpl standing in front of you fancies doing something else?
 

The_Duke

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#8
If you want to go that route, that is your call.

Just try to understand that the system does not see itself as being there to meet your personal aspirations - it is there to meet a specific operational need. You volunteered to go, and as you have seen, the army sees you as an infantryman, not an armoured infantryman.

I think that your request to change based on gaining armd experience in order to backdoor into a Reg armd unit is unlikely to gain any sympathy whatsover, more likely outright ridicule.
 
#10
Whilst I can understand the desire to mobilise with your own bn, this is most definitely not a welfare issue.

If you approached me, I would say that you are there to serve the Army; the Army is not there to serve you. I might also have a cheeky word with the 'stab' coy that you would then go to, in order to let them know what you think of them.

If you haven't yet been mobilised, then there is no reason for you not to be able to withdraw your voluntary status. I rather doubt it will assist in your credibility in the future however - do not be surprised if you are viewd as 'difficult' and, who knows, you may be left behind when your mates go off next year.
 

The_Duke

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#11
derfel said:
, and now to be stuck in a ta coy has really gripped my s***. put a lot of effort in since xmas on my phys and other areas and it seems wasted
As you have not been yet, how do you know it has been wasted? Try and speak to people who have done FP Coy work before, and find out what they thought of it.

4 Para have just finished T7, working as one of the 5 Coys within the Reg Bns they supported rather than as a separate FP Coy and had a busy tour. Londons did 2 back to back and certainly earnt their pay out there. I am sure others have done similar. It is not all glorious, and a lot of boredom is involved as well.

It is what the TA inf is here to do at the moment, and you will certainly need your fitness, training etc to do it.

Don't dismiss it without looking into it. Good luck.
 
#12
The_Duke said:
derfel said:
, and now to be stuck in a ta coy has really gripped my s***. put a lot of effort in since xmas on my phys and other areas and it seems wasted
As you have not been yet, how do you know it has been wasted? Try and speak to people who have done FP Coy work before, and find out what they thought of it.

4 Para have just finished T7, working as one of the 5 Coys within the Reg Bns they supported rather than as a separate FP Coy and had a busy tour. Londons did 2 back to back and certainly earnt their pay out there. I am sure others have done similar. It is not all glorious, and a lot of boredom is involved as well.

It is what the TA inf is here to do at the moment, and you will certainly need your fitness, training etc to do it.

Don't dismiss it without looking into it. Good luck.
dont want to say too much on that on the open forum so ive pmd u
 
#14
just a point - i dont mean any disrespect to anybody, especially with the use of stab. its what me and the boys call each other often and its not seen as a negative thing
 
#15
The_Duke said:
Of course you can transfer. Nobody will mind, especially not the adjutants, staff officers, G1 staff etc that have spent hours ensuring that the relevant LSNs are filled with the required number and type of soldier.
The same ones which sent me to Iraq to fill a LSN which was filled 3 months prior, and forgot to tell anyone I was coming :evil: ?

msr
 

The_Duke

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#16
Msr

They are only human after all. Did you ask to be transferred to the adventure training centre in Cyprus because it was more in line with your personal aspirations?
 
#17
invisiblehelper said:
Thank you friend of Ant! I have not laughed so much in ages, I am still trying to clean the tea I snorted off my keyboard!
"Is this a welfare matter?" Nah mate...it's a fcuking mental health matter if what you are saying is what you genuinely think!
Why not just appeal before you get sent to Chilwell? This is not some game where you get to pick and choose just to keep you on the career track, you volunteer to serve...lucky if you get what you want but nobody promised you owt! Iether appeal before you go and safe everyone a sh*tload of aggro or just go where you are sent.
Oh and by the way...the Jocks monitor this page so beware they don't twig who you are!!!
why would it bother me if they twigged? i have nothing against them but its not what i want to do. as for appealing, they told me today and i go very soon. i told them countless times what i wanted and what i didnt. the tour isnt a matter of life or death to me, i just wanted tp get some operational experience while i had the chance. im glad you find it funny, because i dont! as you probaly know going away on tour places a lot of strain on many ppl other than urself, and it would be better if you knew you were doing so for a decent reason. ps sorry about your keyboard
 
#18
The_Duke said:
Msr

They are only human after all. Did you ask to be transferred to the adventure training centre in Cyprus because it was more in line with your personal aspirations?
Damm didnt know that option was available :oops: .do you get a medal for that one?
 
#19
The_Duke said:
Msr

They are only human after all. Did you ask to be transferred to the adventure training centre in Cyprus because it was more in line with your personal aspirations?
Sounds far too much like hard work ;)

msr
 

The_Duke

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#20
as for appealing, they told me today and i go very soon. i told them countless times what i wanted and what i didnt.

Oh that is my mistake then! Hands up everyone who has told the army exactly what they wanted to do and what they didn't? OK then - now hands up all those who honestly believed that the army would give a flyer?

Once you volunteer to be mobilised, you put your name into the system. What comes out of the system is anyones guess.

Enjoy your tour, stay safe.

Duke
 

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