Mo laoch! Michael Collins and Irish Independence.

The_Gremlin

Old-Salt
Why aren't you using your usual profile?
In the wider sense you are also wrong.
Just to make you think, the IRA provided the British High Command in Ireland with a bodyguard to protect them from, 'those mad Fenian b#st#rds', between 1914 and 1918.
I don't actually know what the British High Command thought of that.
Well there were different versions of the IRA back then.
Same as the UVF was a different organisation.
 

DaManBugs

On ROPS
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In the wider sense you are also wrong.
Just to make you think, the IRA provided the British High Command in Ireland with a bodyguard to protect them from, 'those mad Fenian b#st#rds', between 1914 and 1918.
I don't actually know what the British High Command thought of that.
I believe you'll find that all that actually ended in 1916 when the Brits summarily executed the so-called "leaders" of the Uprising.

MsG
 

moderator

War Hero
I see you're using your typical deflection manoeuvres to detract from your own great and urgent desire/desperate need for attention, spackerman. How banal.
Also your "fatherly abuse" bollix. Just how extremely needy do you have to be to throw your own fatherly experience into the fray and risk being exposed. But it seems to be worth if for you, spackerniski, as long as folks take notice of you - in contrast to your hopeless and terminally clumsy, almost comedic, attempts to convince folks of your "intellectuality" in "Current Affairs". You were banned from the threads for a (very good) reason, spackerman: you're simply too thick to take part.

On the other hand, I'm not banned from "Current Affairs". :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

MsG
Any links to the heavyweights you turned loose on @stacker1? You know, the heavyweights that near scared him to death and made him stop calling your (imaginary) wop wife your wop wife? The heavyweights you told us about here...

Your fables that I'm an alkie, I thrash my wife etc pretty much petered out when other ARRSE heavyweights warned you off summarily abusing my Italian wife.
 
No you haven't.

Name one PIRA member who was in concert with the "German Nazis".

Put up or shut up.
Major Crawford and Captain Spender were the two Unionist Council members who arranged for German guns to be delivered to the UVF in 1914
The closest any Irish politico got to being in cahoots with Nazi Germany were the words of William Warnock, Irish Charge d'Affairs in Berlin who was pretty much anti-Brit, but he did so of his own bat and was merely concerned to get 'international justice' for Ireland v Britain in the event that Hitler had won.
Most of the time Ireland adopted a fair amount of poetic licence over her 'neutrality' and assisted the Allies greatly.....for a neutral country.
As for a PIRA or even an IRA Nazi connection - it's utter ballox
 

BlackDyke

War Hero
Major Crawford and Captain Spender were the two Unionist Council members who arranged for German guns to be delivered to the UVF in 1914
The closest any Irish politico got to being in cahoots with Nazi Germany were the words of William Warnock, Irish Charge d'Affairs in Berlin who was pretty much anti-Brit, but he did so of his own bat and was merely concerned to get 'international justice' for Ireland v Britain in the event that Hitler had won.
Most of the time Ireland adopted a fair amount of poetic licence over her 'neutrality' and assisted the Allies greatly.....for a neutral country.
As for a PIRA or even an IRA Nazi connection - it's utter ballox
With you until the bolded bit Kinch.
Try looking up Sean Russell and Frank Ryan.
Obviously not PIRA but old IRA before they became known as 'Official' in the 1970s.
 
I see you're using your typical deflection manoeuvres to detract from your own great and urgent desire/desperate need for attention, spackerman. How banal.
Also your "fatherly abuse" bollix. Just how extremely needy do you have to be to throw your own fatherly experience into the fray and risk being exposed. But it seems to be worth if for you, spackerniski, as long as folks take notice of you - in contrast to your hopeless and terminally clumsy, almost comedic, attempts to convince folks of your "intellectuality" in "Current Affairs". You were banned from the threads for a (very good) reason, spackerman: you're simply too thick to take part.

On the other hand, I'm not banned from "Current Affairs". :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

MsG
I notice you have used "your typical deflection manoeuvres" to detract from the fact the you arent providing any links to these "ARRSE heavyweights".

Why do you lie about your family (and everything else)? Some of it is explainable like your father bumming you and your mother not giving a shit,but why lie about the rest of them? Do they also hate you?
 

DaManBugs

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I notice you have used "your typical deflection manoeuvres" to detract from the fact the you arent providing any links to these "ARRSE heavyweights".

Why do you lie about your family (and everything else)? Some of it is explainable like your father bumming you and your mother not giving a shit,but why lie about the rest of them? Do they also hate you?
Turning it back on me, spackerman? Clumsy, clumsy in the extreme! A typical manoeuvre for a low-intelligence gobshite like you who's still convinced that he can take it up with "normal" folks (apart from on "Current Affairs"). That's why you begged for your original ARRSEpedia entry to be removed. This was it:
Stacker1 has often been described on ARRSE as a person who could start an argument in an empty room. That’s certainly true, but it’s also very interesting and enlightening to explore how he came by that reputation.
His Ma told him that he was the product of a loving relationship with Father Christmas. Stacker’s cosy and fluffy world totally fell apart, and was totally devastated, when he was 15 years old and finally discovered that Father Christmas doesn’t exist.
But even before that, he’d had loads of aggro at primary school. When it came to assessing his IQ, the experts weren’t sure what to do. They weren’t actually sure that human life was even at all possible at Stacker’s level of intelligence. In the end, they decided to send him to a special-needs school. Unfortunately, he spectacularly failed the entrance exam, scoring the lowest marks ever recorded. There had never been a case like it, so the experts, entirely bereft of solutions, decided that there was nothing for it but to send him to a “normal” school and hope for the best – a sort of “sink or swim” philosophy.
Things didn’t work out very well at all. Right from the start, Stacker was singled out for his “extreme thickosity” and mercilessly harassed by his fellow pupils. He incessantly complained to his Ma that he was being ostracised and humiliated, but she (his Ma) had more than enough on her plate in dealing with his (Stacker’s) many “stepfathers”.
In the way halfwits make their way in the world (see Cameron, Osborne and Trump), Stacker devised a plan to take the pressure off at school: he became a bubbler! He dobbed anyone and everyone in for whatever reason. He thus ensured his protection, since all became wary of the “teachers’ pet”. All of which is understandable in a way, since even now he’s five-foot-six and 15 stone, which never changed from 16 onwards and was the main reason why folks found him so utterly repulsive.
But repulsive is what Stacker didn’t want to be (in spite of his physical appearance) He was still a virgin at 25 years old and he desperately wanted to be the mutt’s nuts, the “it” fella, the “James Bond” of his generation, and cool as fück – the very description of “manly”.
So he sounded out his chances of at least getting a remote chance at a bit of nooky – and he happened upon the British Army! He’d always found squaddies second only to pop-stars (at which Stacker had no chance whatsoever) in their ability to attract nooky, and so he applied himself to the task when he left school with no qualifications whatsoever.
Sandhurst politely replied that they weren’t interested, likewise the SAS and Paras, and so did sundry other regiments. But the “Really Large Corps” seemed to be interested. Stacker couldn’t add, couldn’t subtract, but he could stack stuff. He was really good at stacking stuff. So he was hired.
But what the head-sheds hadn’t reckoned with was the fruits of Stacker’s negative upbringing and the lengths he’d adopted to hide it. No-one was aware of just how extremely vindictive, malicious and spiteful his past had made him. But he was initially very careful to mask his sinister and malevolent intentions since he’d had enough practice in the art.
When he first appeared on ARRSE, he was the ho, ho, ho good comrade for all. That was until he was denigrated as a terminal thickie. He then decided to appeal to the “men” on ARRSE and make his “manly” mark by casually mentioning that he’d had to “give his ‘old lady’ a slap because she’d spilled his beer”. He’d hoped that would establish his “manliness” for all those concerned. Instead, he kicked off a wave of repulsion, since ARRSErs don’t take kindly to folks abusing others.
After that, Stacker panicked and tried to re-establish his “macho” credentials a little later when he mentioned that he’d already been to court twice on drunk-driving charges. That also didn’t go down well at all with other ARRSErs, some of whom had lost friends and relatives to such irresponsible idiots.
He then decided that he was going to be a formidable discussion partner. That didn’t work out either. He never, at any time, had the intellectual wherewithal to even get close to folks like “smartascarrots”, among many, many others, who easily and comprehensively demolished his simple arguments. At some point in time, Stacker decided that he was going to be the “last one standing”, so, in his own little intellectual world, he decided that if (when) he had the last word, he triumphed. Which is were his ARRSE “reputation” comes from. Indeed, in one memorable exchange, Stacker argued his hopeless case until 04:30 hours; whereupon his “opponent” thought that it was complete waste of time and decided to go to bed. Only to find a triumphant PM from Stacker later that day that stated, since he (the “opponent”) had given up, he (Stacker) had clearly won the argument! Indeed!
Nuff sedd, spackerman. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

MsG
 

The_Gremlin

Old-Salt
@DaManBugs - did Irish independence really benefit the Irish working class man in any way?

Is the RoI today really any different from the UK?
They don't even have an NHS system.
To me, the whole thing seems pointless. Just another way to create layers of bureaucracy and more jobs for politicians.

Nationalism and patriotism has often been used to distract the working class from socialism.
The aristocracy convinces the working man to wave his little flag and doff his cap; to fight another foreign worker, rather than resist the aristocracy who exploits him.

Doesn't matter if the worker is waving an Irish tricolour in South Armagh or a Union Jack in the trenches. He's still been fooled.
 
And the Irish Cotton question?

Will this be raised in the House after Brexit?
 

mercurydancer

LE
Book Reviewer
I haven't the slightest idea what stale piss and curry smells like. But I bow to your obviously far greater experience in that respect.:-D

MsG
You live in Hyson Green and you dont know what stale piss and curry smells like? Hang around Radford Road and Gregory Boulevard junction and breathe in, and breathe out, and breathe again. You will get the idea.
 
Turning it back on me, spackerman? Clumsy, clumsy in the extreme! A typical manoeuvre for a low-intelligence gobshite like you who's still convinced that he can take it up with "normal" folks (apart from on "Current Affairs"). That's why you begged for your original ARRSEpedia entry to be removed. This was it:

Nuff sedd, spackerman. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

MsG
Bugsy, Bugsy, Bugsy, is that essay that you wrote just another sign of just how not bothered you are?

Maybe a link to who I "begged" to get my ARRSEpedia entry changed, seeing as you clearly lied (again) about the "ARRSE heavyweights".?
 

The_Gremlin

Old-Salt
You live in Hyson Green and you dont know what stale piss and curry smells like? Hang around Radford Road and Gregory Boulevard junction and breathe in, and breathe out, and breathe again. You will get the idea.
Is that where the prostitutes work?
 

mercurydancer

LE
Book Reviewer
Is that where the prostitutes work?
No mate, the whores work further up Mount Hooton Road ( well they used to) and across Mansfield Road into Mapperley Road.* I was born and brought up in Hyson Green so have an encylopaedic knowledge of the place and visit frequently. The mussies wont allow that sort of thing to happen near their shops but the kurds and the poles arent that fussed about it.


*Never been with a prostitute for two reasons- too handsome so I have to beat the women away with a shitty stick and secondly I am too miserly.
 
With you until the bolded bit Kinch.
Try looking up Sean Russell and Frank Ryan.
Obviously not PIRA but old IRA before they became known as 'Official' in the 1970s.
With you now, was thinking of the mainland bombs (WW2) more as opportunist Republican than pro-nazi. But point taken.
 

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