Missing girl, Met officer arrested

He's appealing the sentence, not the verdict.

Would he be appealing the sentence if it was changed to hanging if he lost the appeal, or if he had to stump up the cash for the appeal out of his own sky-rocket instead of the taxpayers pocket ?

If the answer, in either case, is no - Then his appeal paperwork can go straight in file 13.

Some people deserve no rights - This c**t is one of those people.
 
As he pled guilty - Appeal booted into touch as soon as it makes an appearance

If some ambulance chasing, scumbag of a lawyer tries screwing the taxpayer - Send him direct to join Cousens.

Change the sentence from whole life to a minimum of 60 years.

Release beckons in 2081. Enjoy.
 

Aphra

War Hero
Some commented, here included, that his early guilty plea was an 'early release' game plan, as a copper he must have had some idea of the system. Biggest threat to him not leaving jail feet first is political, rag bag lefties want to abolish whole life, no doubt assisted by ECHR in due course.
I'm not convinced his guilty plea was that early. From what I've read, Couzens seems to have followed the maxim of 'admit what you can't deny' only when it was made clear that the forensic evidence, CCTV, dashcam and other evidence was irrefutable. Fulford LJ made clear that the guilty plea would avail Couzens nothing. I doubt Couzens himself had much Court experience and I'd suggest his solicitor would have advised on the guilty plea once it became clear that a not-guilty plea would have no chance of success.

In all my career I only met one defence solicitor who would have defended Satan himself and enjoyed every minute. He was a thoroughly unpleasant person and I was not alone in experiencing a certain Schadenfreude when it was reported he'd been struck off. Most defence solicitors are decent professionals who take their responsibilities as Officers of the Court seriously. In Couzens' case, it's likely his representation was appointed by the Court and funded by Legal Aid. Contrary to what the popular press would have you believe, Legal Aid is not a bottomless pocket of cash, and further funding post conviction is limited.

For what it's worth, I doubt leave to appeal will be granted. As @Werewolf eloquently says above, this is not Fulford LJ's first rodeo.
 
I'm not convinced his guilty plea was that early. From what I've read, Couzens seems to have followed the maxim of 'admit what you can't deny' only when it was made clear that the forensic evidence, CCTV, dashcam and other evidence was irrefutable. Fulford LJ made clear that the guilty plea would avail Couzens nothing. I doubt Couzens himself had much Court experience and I'd suggest his solicitor would have advised on the guilty plea once it became clear that a not-guilty plea would have no chance of success.

In all my career I only met one defence solicitor who would have defended Satan himself and enjoyed every minute. He was a thoroughly unpleasant person and I was not alone in experiencing a certain Schadenfreude when it was reported he'd been struck off. Most defence solicitors are decent professionals who take their responsibilities as Officers of the Court seriously. In Couzens' case, it's likely his representation was appointed by the Court and funded by Legal Aid. Contrary to what the popular press would have you believe, Legal Aid is not a bottomless pocket of cash, and further funding post conviction is limited.

For what it's worth, I doubt leave to appeal will be granted. As @Werewolf eloquently says above, this is not Fulford LJ's first rodeo.

Indeed. When first arrested, Couzen's admitted he had abducted Sarah, but claimed he had handed her over alive to an Eastern European OCG. His initial story was they had threatened him because he owed them money and they had demanded he kidnap a young woman who they could sell into sexual slavery.

It was only after her realised that no one was buying his pathetic, Taken-style fantasy that he finally came clean. As others have said, almost certainly on the advice of his brief that it was the only way he could hope to avoid a WLT.
 
Gets worse for the Met's rep...

Two Met Police officers who took and shared photographs of two murdered sisters they called 'dead birds' were sacked today at a police tribunal.

PC Jamie Lewis, 33, made the appalling WhatsApp comment as he and PC Deniz Jaffer, 47, were meant to be keeping the cordon protecting Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry's bodies secure.

Jaffer also took to the social media messaging app to declare 'I'm here now I'll try to take pictures of the dead birds', a police misconduct panel heard.

PC Jaffer and Lewis were supposed to protect the scene after the sisters were found stabbed to death in Fryent Country Park in Wembley, north-west London.

But instead, they breached the cordon to take 'inappropriate' and 'unauthorised' photographs of the bodies, which were then sent 'to a dentist and doctor', and a WhatsApp group.

Jaffer took four photographs and Lewis took two - one of which was sent to a female colleague with Lewis's face superimposed onto it.

Police watchdog the IOPC later revealed Lewis also used 'degrading and sexist language' to describe the victims in the WhatsApp team group of 42 colleagues.

 
Gets worse for the Met's rep...

Two Met Police officers who took and shared photographs of two murdered sisters they called 'dead birds' were sacked today at a police tribunal.

PC Jamie Lewis, 33, made the appalling WhatsApp comment as he and PC Deniz Jaffer, 47, were meant to be keeping the cordon protecting Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry's bodies secure.

Jaffer also took to the social media messaging app to declare 'I'm here now I'll try to take pictures of the dead birds', a police misconduct panel heard.

PC Jaffer and Lewis were supposed to protect the scene after the sisters were found stabbed to death in Fryent Country Park in Wembley, north-west London.

But instead, they breached the cordon to take 'inappropriate' and 'unauthorised' photographs of the bodies, which were then sent 'to a dentist and doctor', and a WhatsApp group.

Jaffer took four photographs and Lewis took two - one of which was sent to a female colleague with Lewis's face superimposed onto it.

Police watchdog the IOPC later revealed Lewis also used 'degrading and sexist language' to describe the victims in the WhatsApp team group of 42 colleagues.


Prison for this pair in a couple of weeks, and I hope for a very long while.

Disgusting scum, the pair of them. may they rot in hell.
 
Another one - Dick of the Yard was on the case no doubt?


And an update on another Met Officer.

Not yet making the 'main' headlines yet, probably due to a recent incident off the French coast that I am guilty of probably.

 
And an update on another Met Officer.

Not yet making the 'main' headlines yet, probably due to a recent incident off the French coast that I am guilty of probably.


There must be enough rapists in the Met to form an official Metropolitan Police Rape Club.

And Dick of the Yard knew nothing?.
 
Do you really think she knows what all of her officers are doing 24/7?

No, but when one of then is known as the rapist, and an armed officer at that, it does not inspire confidence.

It's not as Dick of the Yard has an unblemished record in the farce over the last 16 years or so, it it?.

Record crime in Londonistan

Giving the knee to a Marxist group (BLM)

Plus, no doubt much more besides.

Poor reaction to the XR and IB blockades

As others have said on here "a fish rots from the head downwards"
 
Giving the knee to a Marxist group
Two officers did off their own bat and got resoundingly castigated by their peers. She reaffirmed that officers must be impartial at protests - and she has repeatedly raised the elephant in the room regarding the demographic causers of knife crime - and their victims whilst defending stop search as a tactic...

This would be like the public pointing to that squaddie nicked by rmp's for refusing to solider in protest outside Downing Street last year as an indictment of the entire army.

As for IB - you confuse the Counties, who hold roughly 25 or 26 of the 31 or so M25 junctions as Met. I would also point out that sustaining enough officers every day for 2 months to not just respond in 10 minutes, but de-bond the glue-ons and have the critical mass of officers to arrest and transport all of them off the motorway in one (excuse the pun) sitting is nothing but an impressive achievement, and was also achieved while all the usual central london stuff (including large protests) carried on. This was also achieved on both ends of the motorway at once (the met owning or sharing two clusters of a couple of junctions on opposite sides of the M25).
 
Indeed. When first arrested, Couzen's admitted he had abducted Sarah, but claimed he had handed her over alive to an Eastern European OCG. His initial story was they had threatened him because he owed them money and they had demanded he kidnap a young woman who they could sell into sexual slavery.

It was only after her realised that no one was buying his pathetic, Taken-style fantasy that he finally came clean. As others have said, almost certainly on the advice of his brief that it was the only way he could hope to avoid a WLT.

I can understand how a future murder and rapist slipped through the Met's recruiting process.

What's really disturbing is how someone so manifestly stupid was recruited and retained.
 

Arte_et_Marte

ADC
Moderator
Do you really think she knows what all of her officers are doing 24/7?
She should do.

Sure, any gen about a Police Officers dodgy behaviour will start with Constables and Skippers at ground level, but there has to be robust system in place for such behaviour to be passed uncondionally up the chain of command. If the head of any organisation has not got these systems in place and isn't briefed on the failings under their command and isn't rigorously checking that the feedback from below is working properly, then the buck stops at the top. It's always thus.

In the case of MetPol, she has had so many opportunties to get this right and it's still not working properly and neither is she.
 
I can understand how a future murder and rapist slipped through the Met's recruiting process.

What's really disturbing is how someone so manifestly stupid was recruited and retained.

He already had his firearms ticket from CNC, so they probably figured an extra warm body they could slot into DPG without going through the expense of training him themselves was good enough.
 
She should do.

Sure, any gen about a Police Officers dodgy behaviour will start with Constables and Skippers at ground level, but there has to be robust system in place for such behaviour to be passed uncondionally up the chain of command. If the head of any organisation has not got these systems in place and isn't briefed on the failings under their command and isn't rigorously checking that the feedback from below is working properly, then the buck stops at the top. It's always thus.

In the case of MetPol, she has had so many opportunties to get this right and it's still not working properly and neither is she.

Going back many years, I remember a case of an off duty PC who deliberately - and with considerable premeditation - did something that was dishonest and dishonourable. Without going into details, his actions fell into a grey area legally, but demonstrated a deeply flawed character, and considerable naivete about how the world really works.

His behaviour occurred in another Force's area, but word got back to his own bosses very quickly. From that day, his career stalled and his job satisfaction took a severe nose dive. I think the term today would be 'constructive dismissal'. That was the Police quietly cleaning house in their own way. I doubt if it would happen now.
 

Arte_et_Marte

ADC
Moderator
Going back many years, I remember a case of an off duty PC who deliberately - and with considerable premeditation - did something that was dishonest and dishonourable. Without going into details, his actions fell into a grey area legally, but demonstrated a deeply flawed character, and considerable naivete about how the world really works.

His behaviour occurred in another Force's area, but word got back to his own bosses very quickly. From that day, his career stalled and his job satisfaction took a severe nose dive. I think the term today would be 'constructive dismissal'. That was the Police quietly cleaning house in their own way. I doubt if it would happen now.
It was like that back in my day with Happy Valley. We had no qualms about getting rid of a criminal cop.

Old school dodgy detectives in C.I.D however, was a different ball game.
 
He already had his firearms ticket from CNC, so they probably figured an extra warm body they could slot into DPG without going through the expense of training him themselves was good enough.
Exactly that. He was a plastic who got into the Met by the back door. I doubt that any checks were done on him as they assumed they had all been done by the CNC, especially with him being firearms trained and working at such sensitive sites. CNC were probably just glad to get rid of him.
 

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