Minister detained at US airport

Congratulate or castigate?

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  • He should be getting reamed out, and like it.

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LE
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#21
western said:
smartascarrots said:
If everyone's going to go around stopping terrorist subjects on the grounds that they 'look Muslim', we're going to a) alienate a lot of innocent Muslims who may otherwise want to help us, b) urine off a lot of non-Muslims because the minimum-wage-wallah at the desk can't tell the difference and c) be blown up by blonde, blue-eyed Islamists.
FFS! We live in a country where you can be summarily executed for looking like a Muslim.
Or a kid playing football, or even, believe it or not, a white middle class kufir london bus commuter!!
 
#22
Biped said:
western said:
smartascarrots said:
If everyone's going to go around stopping terrorist subjects on the grounds that they 'look Muslim', we're going to a) alienate a lot of innocent Muslims who may otherwise want to help us, b) urine off a lot of non-Muslims because the minimum-wage-wallah at the desk can't tell the difference and c) be blown up by blonde, blue-eyed Islamists.
FFS! We live in a country where you can be summarily executed for looking like a Muslim.
Or a kid playing football, or even, believe it or not, a white middle class kufir london bus commuter!!
True but rarely by the Police

Anyway I supporting stopping and searching people who fit the profile
 

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#24
Wishful_Thinking said:
Damn! I read the title of this thread and thought it meant our very own MDN :roll:

Now that would be a giggle!
God forbid MDN should be subject to stop and search. The clear-up rates for the rozzers wouldn't be believed - 99% clear-up rate of all crimes in the last 10 years? Overnight? Attributable to merely one degenerate? Nah, it's a fix!
 
#25
western said:
smartascarrots said:
If everyone's going to go around stopping terrorist subjects on the grounds that they 'look Muslim', we're going to a) alienate a lot of innocent Muslims who may otherwise want to help us, b) urine off a lot of non-Muslims because the minimum-wage-wallah at the desk can't tell the difference and c) be blown up by blonde, blue-eyed Islamists.
FFS! We live in a country where you can be summarily executed for looking like a Muslim.
What countries that? and can I emigrate there?

:D
 
#26
Miami airport security and customs is a fecking hateful experience

Showing the worst of american mentality. Being treated as some sort of sub-human threat to their "Civilisation" you are driven pillar to post by rude ignorant security staff most of whom can barely speak recognisable English.

And they all have fecking jesus loves me lanyards for their ID

The place makes Thiefrow almost a pleasure
 
#27
The_Cad said:
What countries that? and can I emigrate there? :D
I wouldn't wish Stockwell on anyone it's a toilet.

thegimp said:
Miami airport security and customs is a fecking hateful experience
Try Chicago, two weeks ago the 'Spot the Terrorist' computer went belly up and we had to stand in the queue for three hours while the immigration people just sat silently staring at us. At least I didn't admit being involved in genocide during the Second World War!
 

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#28
Maybe it's because I'm a gun-toting redneck, or at the very least, look like one, but when I went to the US last year, I found them to be very helpful and polite, if a bit stupid. They did check my dabs for GSR and explosives using a bit of cotton wool mind you.

Edited to add: note of warning: NEVER, EVER find yourself running pel mel through an airport with a big rucksack on your back because you're late for a flight. I did, once. I felt like the guy that gets all the alarms ringing in supermarkets with dudes ALL over the place in civvy clothes, trying desperately hard to cover me in a nonchalant, but purposeful way. Lucky for me, it was schipol airport, but unluckily, I'd left my bag of liquorice in the top compartment. A bloke actually stuck one in his gob to test it before he'd let me through!!
 
#29
It was the 'dumb' bit that got to me once you were face to face they were nice and polite. It's almost as if they were switched off when the computer crashed.
 
#30
I can't believe that anyone has any form of sympathy for this particular nasty little money-grubbing opportunist shit. He is the very model of the most vile type of 'professional' politician currently in vogue with the champagne socialists in power. Hanging, shooting, burning, poisoning, dismembering, drawing, quartering....

All too good.
 
#31
Whiskybreath said:
I can't believe that anyone has any form of sympathy for this particular nasty little money-grubbing opportunist shit. He is the very model of the most vile type of 'professional' politician currently in vogue with the champagne socialists in power. Hanging, shooting, burning, poisoning, dismembering, drawing, quartering....

All too good.
Your missing the point. He was representing the Crown - Her Majesty's Government and was detained, this is shocking in itself, the fact that it was twice makes it even more worrying. Whether you like him or not is not relevant.
 
#32
jimbojetset said:
Whiskybreath said:
I can't believe that anyone has any form of sympathy for this particular nasty little money-grubbing opportunist shit. He is the very model of the most vile type of 'professional' politician currently in vogue with the champagne socialists in power. Hanging, shooting, burning, poisoning, dismembering, drawing, quartering....

All too good.
Your missing the point. He was representing the Crown - Her Majesty's Government and was detained, this is shocking in itself, the fact that it was twice makes it even more worrying. Whether you like him or not is not relevant.
No, you are missing the point. He is in the category of person which currently presents the highest threat.

Good on the Yanks for being on the ball.

msr
P.S. Anything which drags the politicos back to the real world is also good news.
 
#34
Look - he'd have been chauffeured by ministerial jaguar straight to the government VIP lounge at Heathrow (you don't want them to have to rub shoulders with us do you) before boarding a BA first class cabin through a special exit in the lounge. Having to stand in a queue and talk to plebs on the way back must have caused the poor fellow untold trauma.

If he had a complaint about the way he was treated, it should have been made through proper channels. Giving 'do you know who I am' type stories to the press is not the proper channel. It makes him look like an arrogant prat and it'll damage Britain's standing in America if the story is picked up by the US press.

Given his behaviour and given the fact that he only became an MP a couple of years before becoming a minister may lead people to think that he's some sort of token muslim minister.
 
#35
Well done the Yanks ! EVERYONE is suspect and especially so if one has a mouth and nostrils specifically designed for fitting neatly into troughs of my tax money!

Minister of the Crown. Give me a break. A 'Bottler' Brown sop to the Asian community.
 
#36
jimbojetset said:
Whiskybreath said:
I can't believe that anyone has any form of sympathy for this particular nasty little money-grubbing opportunist shit. He is the very model of the most vile type of 'professional' politician currently in vogue with the champagne socialists in power. Hanging, shooting, burning, poisoning, dismembering, drawing, quartering....

All too good.
Your missing the point. He was representing the Crown - Her Majesty's Government and was detained, this is shocking in itself, the fact that it was twice makes it even more worrying. Whether you like him or not is not relevant.
Oi lefty poof, where you been ? anyway this person isn't a holder of a dip passport so why shouldn't he be searched.
 
#37
If he had been travelling on a diplomatic passport, then he wouldn't have been searched or detained - it is against international law and would have created a huge diplomatic incident. He was travelling on his own passport and would have been subjected to the same profiling and checks as the rest of the great un-washed public. Let's just remember that the profiling and checks are the same ones that politicians insist on when they want to look tough after incidents.

Those are the rules they have forced on us and I object to anyone thinking they are above the law. Politicians, celebrities, aircrew, duty-free staff, the innocent and the guilty. If he doesn't like it, he can resign from the committees (and give up the freebies).

If the profiling at the airport had immediately highlighted his job, his political leanings, his friends, associates and views on homosexuality, gun ownership and curb-crawling, I have no doubt he would be bleating about invasion of privacy.

Grow up and get on with your job.
 
#38
It was more his attitude that we would never search a US politician so why should he as a politician be searched himself that gripped my sh!t.

OK for the rest of us to face the **** probe/have smoking banned in our workplaces/have our car mileages taxed beyond all sense/etc ad nauseam but God forbid that (especially Neu Arbeit) politicians should have to put up with these things.

Remember this shower of cnuts are the ones who recently suggested any non-politician working in Parliament should make way for the elected elite in queues for drinks machines, food etc. Some pigs are more equal than others...
 
#39
Comment by a septic type who has been through a few airports.

First of all, if he was using a diplomatic or official passport the actions were absolutely dead wrong. Should not happen to any diplomat much less an official of our closest ally. I understand he was traveling on a personal passport.

Second, the Transporation Security Administration is notoriously incompetent. Part of the problem is that Bush decided to create TSA because private security was so dreadful. Then the Democrats in Congress, under pressure from labor unions, put a provision into the law creating TSA that required a hiring priority for the staff being replaced and laid off. If they were so bad, why hire them back?

TSA "watch lists" are very poorly maintained. I am not a fan of Senator Ted Kennedy but I don't see him as a terrorism risk. Back in 2004 he was denied boarding 5 times in 3 months at Washington and Boston because a name similar to his was on a terrorism list!! Reportedly the senator was quite annoyed.
Kennedy

Senator Kennedy's nephew, then-Congressman Joesph Kennedy, had a well publicised run in with TSA staff who did not respond well to his "don't you know who I am" line. Joe Kennedy was not a great congressman and not too bright. He could easily be outwitted by your average coccker spaniel. Nevertheless, I would not think of him as a security risk.

One time while I was waiting in the security line I saw an elderly lady in her 80's taken aside for extra searches. A few monents later they took aside two Norwegian Boy Scouts. At times I think TSA hires meter maids who have been fired for being to abrasive for the meter maid job.

A friend of mine damn near got arrested at the Boston airport. The TSA decided to do extra searches on his 3 year old daughter and tried to insist that he could not accompany her into the screening area. It may have been that he is white with a US passport and his (newly adopted) daughter is Chinese and was using a PRC passport but very few 3 year olds are committed terrorists. Noisy yes, sometimes cranky yes, terrorists no. (eventually the TSA let him be present while they searched the 3 y.o. girl.)

I used to get taken aside for searches a lot but that was understandable as I used to keep my luggage in the basement in the same room where I reload shootshells and ammo and residue would trigger the sniffer machine.
Moving luggage to the attic solved that problem.

Mr Malik should not feel badly. He was treated no worse that the TSA treats hundreds of white Catholic, Protestant, Jewish or agnostic Americans every day of the week.

PS By the way my own personal worst airport experience was at Heathrow. Returning from a 3 week family photo safari in Kenya and Tanzania the security staff refused to hand search my film and promised that they had the most modern xray equipment in the world that would do no damage. The result, 27 rolls of films showing stripy green fog.

Please remember if you visit the US and airport security treat you like dirt you should feel at home as they are treating you just like they treat US citizens.
 
#40
TSA stupidity.

Sorry, forgot to add the stupidest of all. Several years ago retired Brigadier General Joe Foss, MH was stopped at an airport and the TSA wanted to seize his Congressional Medal of Honor. The medal is a star with points and the TSA thought it could be used as weapon. He had the medal in his pocket as he was on his way to West Point to give a speech. FFS, thinking somebody who earned the Medal of Honor is a security risk!!

http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.asp
 

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