Minister detained at US airport

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Biped

LE
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Mr Malik said he had also been stopped and searched last year
Britain's first Muslim minister, Shahid Malik, has said he is "deeply disappointed" that he was detained by airport security officials in America.
The international development minister was stopped and searched at Washington DC's Dulles airport after a series of meetings on tackling terrorism.

Mr Malik, MP for Dewsbury, West Yorks, had his hand luggage checked for explosives when returning to Heathrow. He said the same thing happened to him at JFK airport in New York last year. On that occasion he had been a keynote speaker at an event organised by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), alongside the FBI and Muslim organisations, to talk about tackling extremism and defeating terrorism.

'Respect needed'

Mr Malik said he had received numerous apologies and assurances from the US authorities after that incident. But he was again searched and detained by DHS officials on Sunday. Mr Malik said two other Muslims were also detained.

"I am deeply disappointed," he said.
Why is he moaning? FFS, the bloke is a: a muslim, and b: on various anti-terror panels, so the fact that the US customs are judiciously stopping and searching people who look, well, muslim or arab is to be applauded, all the more so by him. After all, the threat of terrorism comes from Islam, so it probably wouldn't work too well if they stopped and bottom-searched a 90 year old caucasian lady would it?

Don't say "I am deeply disappointed", simply say "I'm glad to see that you guys are checking the right sort of people, for the right reasons, and yes, even though I'm a labliar stooge, I could also be a rabid Islamist who's managed to get on the inside track through the careful voting of my Islamist friends; crack on, should I bend over now?"
 
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Good skills I'd say. I'm deeply suspicious about this guy anyway... I mean just WHAT does he do will all that taxpayers money he fiddles supposedly as his expenses?

As Biped said, he should be praising the security at the airport not castigating it.
 
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Biped, i must say i fully agree with you there. Why does the minister think he should recieve special dispensation for being of Woggy-ish descent. He should also realise that he is setting an example to the rest of the Muslims who may be subjected to such searches.

TMS
 
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Biped said:
Don't say "I am deeply disappointed", simply say "I'm glad to see that you guys are checking the right sort of people, for the right reasons[/b], and yes, even though I'm a labliar stooge, I could also be a rabid Islamist who's managed to get on the inside track through the careful voting of my Islamist friends; crack on, should I bend over now?"
Agreed but unfortunately many people only want tough action as long as it doesn't affect their lives.

Then of course we have King Abdullah claiming we don't do enough to prevent terrorism :roll: Not sure whether he's planning to be the pot or the kettle whilst swanning around London.
 
#5
:x This M.P. had 185,481 pounds for expenses in the last 12 months he was the highest biggest snout in the trough muslim or not. must be employing his total family with these expenses. British forces go without essential equipment whilst the top ones in Animal Farm grab the loot, :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
 

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node said:
:x This M.P. had 185,481 pounds for expenses in the last 12 months he was the highest biggest snout in the trough muslim or not. must be employing his total family with these expenses. British forces go without essential equipment whilst the top ones in Animal Farm grab the loot, :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Ah well, the good thing on that score is that Parliament has withdrawn it's appeal to the FOI bods that would have removed the obligation for MP's to publish expense claimed for their partners or families FROM THE STATE.

They tried hard to get that bit removed from the FOI, but realised belatedly that they might start riots in the streets. But hey, that's ANOTHER story for the NAAFI.
 
#7
Does this mean we'll be able to do the same to Barak if he wins the Presidency? Bet they'd love that.

Before this descends into yet another 'bloody Muslims, why aren't they just grateful for all we've given 'em' type thread, remember that he is a Minister of the Crown and if he hasn't been well vetted beforehand then somebody's screwed up big time. This is just an unnecessary slap in the face to what's supposed to be their firmest ally and shows us exactly how much they value our contribution.
 
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Biped said:
Why is he moaning? FFS, the bloke is a: a muslim, and b: on various anti-terror panels, so the fact that the US customs are judiciously stopping and searching people who look, well, muslim or arab is to be applauded, all the more so by him. After all, the threat of terrorism comes from Islam, so it probably wouldn't work too well if they stopped and bottom-searched a 90 year old caucasian lady would it?
I agree completely.



Gwar Muslims. The next threat, I tell you. Find them wherever they hide...
 
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smartascarrots said:
Does this mean we'll be able to do the same to Barak if he wins the Presidency? Bet they'd love that.

Before this descends into yet another 'bloody Muslims, why aren't they just grateful for all we've given 'em' type thread, remember that he is a Minister of the Crown and if he hasn't been well vetted beforehand then somebody's screwed up big time. This is just an unnecessary slap in the face to what's supposed to be their firmest ally and shows us exactly how much they value our contribution.
Why should ministers of the crown be above the law? Whats good for Joe Public is good for them. After all they are OUR employees.
 

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smartascarrots said:
Does this mean we'll be able to do the same to Barak if he wins the Presidency? Bet they'd love that.

Before this descends into yet another 'bloody Muslims, why aren't they just grateful for all we've given 'em' type thread, remember that he is a Minister of the Crown and if he hasn't been well vetted beforehand then somebody's screwed up big time. This is just an unnecessary slap in the face to what's supposed to be their firmest ally and shows us exactly how much they value our contribution.
May I respectfully point you in the general direction of: Red Ken, George Galloway and last but not least Tony B. Liar?

Edited to add: If anyone needed a thorough reaming out, followed by a session in an orange jumpsuit, it's these boys. Ministers of the Crown, my arrse!
 
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smartascarrots said:
Before this descends into yet another 'bloody Muslims, why aren't they just grateful for all we've given 'em' type thread, remember that he is a Minister of the Crown and if he hasn't been well vetted beforehand then somebody's screwed up big time. This is just an unnecessary slap in the face to what's supposed to be their firmest ally and shows us exactly how much they value our contribution.
And of course many Labour Ministers of the Crown, recent past and present, had MI5 files opened on them as it was suspected that their beliefs and behaviour presented a threat to the security of the Realm.
 
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smartascarrots said:
Does this mean we'll be able to do the same to Barak if he wins the Presidency? Bet they'd love that.

Before this descends into yet another 'bloody Muslims, why aren't they just grateful for all we've given 'em' type thread, remember that he is a Minister of the Crown and if he hasn't been well vetted beforehand then somebody's screwed up big time. This is just an unnecessary slap in the face to what's supposed to be their firmest ally and shows us exactly how much they value our contribution.
The majority of foreign Government representatives would travel either with Diplomatic passport and therefore not go through security or be brought through a different channel so they didn't present a security risk at the airport. I agree that he should not have been stopped as a Senator of the United States would not be if on official business (that is if they have a passport).
 
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ExplodingTrousers said:


Gwar Muslims. The next threat, I tell you. Find them wherever they hide...
I'm not a bottom toucher, and overly concerned with mens apparel, but by all that is holy, a Gwar really shouldnt wear yellow.

(Unless its a pillow case over his head, of course)

There are airport immigration officers who would have refused him entry into the country dressed like that!
 
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More evidence of our status as a client kingdom..sorry, close ally.
I mean, it's not unreasonable that a government minister on official business should be stopped and searched....its not like our own security services would have closely scrutinised him and given the Prime Minister an extensive dossier on the bloke...and probably still keep one eye on him....
 

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John_Charity_Spring said:
More evidence of our status as a client kingdom..sorry, close ally.
I mean, it's not unreasonable that a government minister on official business should be stopped and searched....its not like our own security services would have closely scrutinised him and given the Prime Minister an extensive dossier on the bloke...and probably still keep one eye on him....
Let's say he was a rabid Islamist, and that the security services had indeed passed on a comprehensive dossier on the bloke to No. 10. Would he get chucked out, or would he a get a title? I'm waiting for Adams to get nominated for a Lordship, or the Nobel Peace prize at the very least.

A dossier on a bloke who was an Islamist with murderous intent might have disbarred them from public office in the UK a few years back, but considering the big terrorist love-in that this gobment has been engaged in, I wouldn't be surprised at anything. It might be that our septic cousins are reserving the right to be as suspicious as they like.

Edited to add: before the thought police get on my case and come a-knocking, I'm not for one second suggesting the esteemed gentleman IS an Islamist with murderous intent; merely raising a hypothetical scenario for debate regarding the possibilities IF said individual WAS a naughty person.
 
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err... instead of applauding the septics for their 'targetting' of potentials, perhaps one should ask whether their 'targetting' noticed that he was a British Government minister from his passport and travel documents, that he undoubtedly had a appropriately ID'd flunky or two in attendence and that his employment status was logged on the US travel database?

so not 'targetted' at all, merely picked up because they were bored and he was there, yet subjected to their attentions despite an overwhelming wedge of evidence suggesting that they were barking up the wrong tree.

have any of you ever had you bag searched/bottom felt at the Airport before they have accertained your identity?

i'm trying to think of another occasion where septics have 'just done their job' despite a plethora of blindingly ******* obvious evidence that they should hold off.... err.... it'll come to me.....ummm..... oh yes i remember:

every time they kill our people because they can't be fcuking arsed to read the AFV recognition manuals, their RoE or remember that, as a rule, anti-aircraft missiles tend not to be painted Orange!
 
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In fairness I have gone through US Airport security behind a group of soldiers in uniform who were required to remove their boots and belts just like anybody else.
 
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The_Cad said:
Why should ministers of the crown be above the law? Whats good for Joe Public is good for them. After all they are OUR employees.
This wasn't OUR law that was stopping him. International Law as relating to Diplomats and accredited envoys as well as just plain common sense should have told them that an official of a friendly government doesn't pose any immediate security threat. Diplomatic Relations would be impossible if this weren't so. So why subject him to this level of attention?

Biped said:
May I respectfully point you in the general direction of: Red Ken, George Galloway and last but not least Tony B. Liar?

Edited to add: If anyone needed a thorough reaming out, followed by a session in an orange jumpsuit, it's these boys. Ministers of the Crown, my arrse!
RK & GG have never been Ministers of the Crown, representing the UK Government abroad. TB was never subjected to this sort of thing, possibly because they couldn't surgically remove his tongue from Georgey-Boy's colon. In any case, ad hominem's a bad way to frame procedures.

Western said:
And of course many Labour Ministers of the Crown, recent past and present, had MI5 files opened on them as it was suspected that their beliefs and behaviour presented a threat to the security of the Realm.
But were never stopped at airports abroad and interrogated by the officials of a friendly power. Not even once, let alone repeatedly.

If everyone's going to go around stopping terrorist subjects on the grounds that they 'look Muslim', we're going to a) alienate a lot of innocent Muslims who may otherwise want to help us, b) piss off a lot of non-Muslims because the minimum-wage-wallah at the desk can't tell the difference and c) be blown up by blonde, blue-eyed Islamists.
 
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smartascarrots said:
If everyone's going to go around stopping terrorist subjects on the grounds that they 'look Muslim', we're going to a) alienate a lot of innocent Muslims who may otherwise want to help us, b) urine off a lot of non-Muslims because the minimum-wage-wallah at the desk can't tell the difference and c) be blown up by blonde, blue-eyed Islamists.
FFS! We live in a country where you can be summarily executed for looking like a Muslim.
 

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