"Mindfulness" and PTSD?

#1
Ran into a hippy bird in the pub tonight and she reckons that "mindfulness" is the best thing since sliced bread for PTSD. Got a couple of mates who are going through a hard time at moment and wondered if I should suggest it to 'em or is it pop psychology bullshit?

Genuine question; thoughts/abuse welcome.
 
#3
Agreed jarrod, go with people who know about it, ex-military and relevant organisations. Hippies will just stuff lentils and meditation down you, no good whatsoever.
 
#4
Mindfulness is a core subject for PTSD treatment, and is part of the treatment given by Combat Stress.
 
#11
Mindfulness does not have to be Buddhists no more than astrology is Christian or algebra is Muslim.

This mindfulness malarky kicked off a couple of decades with a trick cyclist called Jon-Kabbat Zinn, a Septic who taught it to people suffering with all kinds of stuff, including PTSD. Since then it's caught on and went mainstream, even in the UK.

I don't think mindfulness or meditation is a cure for any ailment, however these things are proven to reduce stress (they can measure stress hormones prior to and after mindfulness/meditation), and any ailment that's stress related, like PTSD, can be helped by lowering stress.

This is good to read:

Mindfulness is a core subject for PTSD treatment, and is part of the treatment given by Combat Stress.
 
#12
its used a lot to help people manage with PTSD, Anxiety etc. It helps you live in the moment and not run off with your thoughts/worries. Its very good, although it does take some practice. Also helps with anger management
 
#14
Jeez, not more Scientology-based crap appearing in the UK.

What next? Xenu curing PTSD personally from his spaceship?
 

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#15
Don't see many of those purple clad large necklace of nuts hippies around now do you ? They thought they had all the answers In a crouch end pubs on skinny roll-ups and one pint of beer all night and a half for the ladieees .
Beware of Gurus ... they will let you down . in a careening veterinarian way .
 
#16
Mindfulness does not have to be Buddhists no more than astrology is Christian or algebra is Muslim.

This mindfulness malarky kicked off a couple of decades with a trick cyclist called Jon-Kabbat Zinn, a Septic who taught it to people suffering with all kinds of stuff, including PTSD. Since then it's caught on and went mainstream, even in the UK.

I don't think mindfulness or meditation is a cure for any ailment, however these things are proven to reduce stress (they can measure stress hormones prior to and after mindfulness/meditation), and any ailment that's stress related, like PTSD, can be helped by lowering stress.

This is good to read:
I think you'll find that its source is in Buddhism and it started off several hundred years ago not twenty, just because an American hijacks it and amends if for no doubt very useful purposes,doesn't mean its his idea. You'll have me believing they cracked Enigma next!
 
#18
I think you'll find that its source is in Buddhism and it started off several hundred years ago not twenty, just because an American hijacks it and amends if for no doubt very useful purposes,doesn't mean its his idea. You'll have me believing they cracked Enigma next!
Yeh, fair one, Greyfergie, I didn't explain myself very well. Mindfulness has it's roots in Buddhism, 2500 years ago, and Jon-Kabatt Zinn, a Buddhist trick cyclist, was the first to introduce it into a clinical psychotherapy setting. The results appeared to be good and since then it's been heavily studied using stuff like MRI brain scanning techniques. There is a wealth of scientific evidence to show that it works.

But it's probably useful to drop the cultural baggage; there is nothing religious about mindfulness. All it is, is about focusing our attention (concentration) on an object (the object being what's happening in the present moment). On the ranges we'd use mindfulness to apply the five marksmanship principles; that's not religious; and it explains why females are shit shots (scatterbrained).

The cultural baggage is what turns some folk off from what can be a very helpful psychiatric aid. Neuroscience thinks that mindfulness and meditation helps us to stay more present; kind of conditions the brain. I could bore on, but many of our problems are 'thinking based', we're taking the rubbish out for the bin men but our minds are ruminating on the past or worrying about the future. It causes mental health problems.
 

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