Military Space Ops

Article says it was launched from India. Due to the laws of physics, the UK is not in the best place for launches. Technically, we could perhaps launch a micro-satellite from an aircraft or ship.

But realistically, we’ll never have a sovereign launch capability.

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MM
Kinda crazy when you think of the latitude and position of Ascension island... though I could well image how eyewatering the cost of infrastructure to take advantage of it would be.

{Edit: oh. Already discussed. For some reason I wasnt seeing posts past #168 until the thread refreshed.}
 
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Trump is citing / touting for a Space Force (probably reading one or two Dale Brown novels such as Silver Tower etc )

Critics may laugh, but the next battlefield dominance apart from Cyber / virtual world is outer space/

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It is laughable. He contradicted his own administration's entirely sensible policy of rejecting the creation of a military space service that's separate from the USAF. A military space service isn't unprecedented: Russia had one for years - until it was merged with the Russian Air Forces. As with the new Russian Aerospace Forces, the US's military space capabilities can be expanded without having separate air & space services, & by not establishing another service a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy can be avoided.

"I oppose the creation of a new military service and additional organizational layers at a time when we are focused on reducing overhead and integrating joint war-fighting functions."
- James Mattis

"If we can justify a separate space force, we can justify a separate service for submarines, for cyber warriors, for the Army Corps of Engineers to run our water projects, for the military health service or for special operations."
- Secretary of the Air Force Heather Wilson

"If I had more money, I would put it into lethality, not bureaucracy."
- Secretary of the Air Force Heather Wilson

If the yanks want to debate changing the number of US military services so much, they should debate reducing the number, not increasing it.
 
They'll need to do something with the space suits though... they won't recruit any death dealing Space Marine Corps types looking like "super beekeeper men"...
just you wait till space bee's attack, who'll be laughing then eh?
You realise that all space telescopes are of the reflecting rather than refracting kind and this means if we're ever attacked by space vampires then we're fecked
 
Call me what you will but I'm convinced the USA/ Russia/ China and possibly one other have plans or have the equivalent of ISS armed with several SLR's and ready to deploy if the fan gets hit with feces.
 
How hard is it (although eye wateringly expensive) to kamikaze a weather satellite into a comma satellite on the other team's side?
Neither particularly hard, nor particularly expensive if you use a satellite at the end of its working life (on the assumption that it doesn't have to do much manoeuvring to get into a conjunctive orbit with the 'target').
 
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A2_Matelot

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Trump is citing / touting for a Space Force (probably reading one or two Dale Brown novels such as Silver Tower etc )

Critics may laugh, but the next battlefield dominance apart from Cyber / virtual world is space
This has been building up a head of steam for a few years and exposes a lot of inter service rivalries in the US not to mention the wierd way they procure and apportion space capabilities between them.

The Airforce have something like 30,000 people space 'SQEP' and the Navy Space Cadre around 5000 (but a lot less posts), no clue on the Army/AMSD/ARSTRAT but it's big. Either way you look at it they've a lot of resource and it's not all coherent.
 
Interesting development on the back of the Galileo fandango....

"In his speech, Mr Williamson stressed that the UK “must make sure [it is] primed and ready to deter and counter the intensifying threats to our everyday life that are emerging in space”..... “That’s why today I’m announcing the RAF is taking the lead in this area and why we plan to increase the number of personnel covering space.
The number of defence space sector staff will go up by a fifth over the next five years to more than 600..."

Mr Williamson added that the RAF Air Command would take on responsibility for “command and control” of UK military space operations.

Britain is planning its own space programme after bitter Brexit dispute with EU over Galileo project
 
Interesting development on the back of the Galileo fandango....

"In his speech, Mr Williamson stressed that the UK “must make sure [it is] primed and ready to deter and counter the intensifying threats to our everyday life that are emerging in space”..... “That’s why today I’m announcing the RAF is taking the lead in this area and why we plan to increase the number of personnel covering space.
The number of defence space sector staff will go up by a fifth over the next five years to more than 600..."

Mr Williamson added that the RAF Air Command would take on responsibility for “command and control” of UK military space operations.

Britain is planning its own space programme after bitter Brexit dispute with EU over Galileo project
With attitudes like the German press it's a wonder anyone want's to do business with them:
No Irish. No blacks. No dogs. No Galileo | DW | 17.05.2018
 

seaweed

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...Mr Williamson added that the RAF Air Command would take on responsibility for “command and control” of UK military space operations...
It would have been nice if he had also announced the addition of the requisite manpower liability! Hey ho!

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MM
 
Could you utilise Reservists? From all the Reserve Forces....
There's always some potential. However, I doubt there's much Space expertise in the Reserves and FTRS still require full time JPANs.

Regards,
MM
 
There's always some potential. However, I doubt there's much Space expertise in the Reserves and FTRS still require full time JPANs.

Regards,
MM
I'm sure there's loads of people working for UK satellite companies who'd love the chance to use their transferable skills as an SAC in the reserves. You know, just like the cyber reserves have done
 
There's always some potential. However, I doubt there's much Space expertise in the Reserves and FTRS still require full time JPANs.

Regards,
MM
I can think of people who just take up space - and get promoted for being a golden boy!

Direct recruitment from industry/academia - not unlike Cyber, and employ them during exercises/ for short mobilisations. Mobilisations can be down to a few days now, and do not count against manning totals.

Members of other specialisations (CIS for example) do have some knowledge of SATCOMMS. I presume the intelligence people know about satellite imagery...
 
I'm sure there's loads of people working for UK satellite companies who'd love the chance to use their transferable skills as an SAC in the reserves. You know, just like the cyber reserves have done
Perhaps; although employment in a satellite company does not necessarily mean an individual has the skills required, assuming he's even a UK national. Moreover, the locations, commitment, package and the cost to the service (in terms of security clearances, parenting and liabilities) quickly tends to mean that the gene pool shrinks further.

The RAF has had more success recruiting and retaining Reserves than the other 2 services but they're not the quick-win many politicians believe.

...Members of other specialisations (CIS for example) do have some knowledge of SATCOMMS. I presume the intelligence people know about satellite imagery...
Which are already pinch-point specialisations for all 3 services!

Regards,
MM
 

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