Military reservist resigns in protest over Iraq war

#1
I know there have been a couple of threads about this already, anyway here is the latest news on this story. My objection to this gentleman's actions is not to his opinions about the war, but to his continuing refusal to acknowledge his many TA comrades who may or may not share his reservations about Iraq but continue to serve, and accept mobilisation. I understand his Unit has a splendid record of producing soldiers for operational service.

His claim to be resigning "as a conscientious objector" is completely spurious. He has put in his resignation, and it has been accepted.

source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050215/323/fciou.html

Tuesday February 15, 02:03 PM
Military reservist resigns in protest over Iraq war

LONDON (AFP) - A soldier from Britain's military reserve, the Territorial Army, formally resigned from the force in protest at the "illegal" war in Iraq, and urged fellow troops to do the same.

Lance Corporal George Solomou, 38, who handed in a letter of resignation to his commanding officer at a Territorial Army base in south London, said a number of other reservists felt the same way about the conflict.

"There is a sizeable minority within the Territorial Army that do not agree with this war, but many soldiers do not realise they are legally entitled to conscientiously object to serving in a war," he told reporters.

"Soldiers have a moral, public and political duty to defend democracy. When democracy fails as it did when (Prime Minister Tony) Blair led us into this illegal war, they have a duty to uphold democracy by not taking part in it."

Solomou had been in the Territorial Army for five years as a member of the Royal Army Medical Corps. He did not serve in Iraq.

The US-led, British-backed war to remove Saddam Hussein in March 2003 had been "illegal and immoral", he said.

In the letter, Solomou said foreign troops should get out of Iraq immediately.

"The continuing occupation is a disaster for the people of Iraq and a nightmare for the British and US troops on the front line," he said.

"I am resigning as a conscientious objector because I don't want any part of it and also because I hope my action might just encourage other soldiers to speak out or opt out."

Britain currently has around 8,960 military personnel serving in Iraq, according to the Ministry of Defence.

A "relatively small proportion" of these are reservists, but exact figures are not kept, a ministry spokesman said.
 
#2
Why the feck did he not resign on the eve of (or before) war in order to get his point across rather than sit back, take the queens shilling and then open his mouth when it looks like he may have to go out to the desert?

Classone TWAT! :evil:
 
#4
Yet another who kept taking the money until it was his turn. Personally I would be trying to recover all the pay he has been getting since the start of conflict, which is when he should have had the ba**s to stand up if he felt like that.

Waster
 
#5
The words coward, chickensh*t, yellow, bellied and tosser spring to mind.

George Solomou, I hope you get run over by a bus....several times, well 9000 odd times to be precise...let all the BRAVE TA & Regssquaddies who are doing their job in Iraq have a chance at being the bus driver.

George FOAD.
 
#6
Lets combine the bayonet thread and this one and see what happens - good example for the paper
 
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#7
It appears the thought police deleted my last post, disappointing.

He's talking out of his hoop anyway, his coy only has 12 blokes who haven't been mobilised (8 of them are daisys), some are on their 3RD tour of the sandpit. I don't like it when people speak sh*te claiming to speak on my behalf.
 
#8
Das Stab

Making that statement - can be interpreted in law as a threat.

I have direct experience of a very well used UK website being closed down, because an identical statement was issued against a well known Military researcher, after he was alleged to have indulged in a spot of grave robbing.

Someone posted identical words to yours . That was enough for his solicitor to gain an injunction to have the board closed. Permanently
 
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#9
Fair enough. It was issued as a comment rather than a threat, but I see your point and will refrain from such utterings. I'd rather not ruin the arrse we know and love.
 
#10
Why would a "conscientious objector" join the Reserve (or Regular) Force in the first place?

There is always potential for being sent to some conflct or war. The time to "choose" is before you sign on the line.

In his case, he's "a member of the Royal Army Medical Corps."
An occupation (presumably) he could help in keeping people alive if sent to war
 
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#11
Interestingly, I found out recently that he didn't actually resign, he'd reached his 3 year re-enlistment date and the Regt decided not to let him sign back on in light of his recent press coverage.
 

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#12
The little chickensh!t barstard was happy to fill his pockets with my tax money and had absolutely no intention of ever living up to the contract he had signed. No better than a thief then.

I was hoping that the MOD could force him to pay back all pay and bounties he had received, plus the cost of training him. With interest accrued.

However as it's emerged that he's not so much the conscientious objector, more a gobby bluffing walt.

How long until he's telling stories down the pub of his time on Telic ?
 
#13
Article in Oracle

Why I Won't Fight in Iraq
Tuesday, February 15, 2005




I am resigning from the Territorial Army because I believe the war in Iraq is wrong. This has not been an easy decision. I have been in the TA for five years - years in which I have learned a lot; won a humanitarian award for helping save the life of a fellow soldier; made many friends; and, I hope, contributed something to this country.

I have no doubt that some of my fellow soldiers will feel I am letting them down. Since I have spoken out against the war in the last few weeks I have had a lot of support from soldiers, but I have also been called a coward. I am a trained medic and there is no doubt my skills could be used in the field to save lives. But after a lot of soul-searching I have concluded my priority must be to try to save lives by taking a public stand against this war.

Of course, when you join the armed forces you have to be prepared to fight. But not any war. Most people in Britain think the war in Iraq is wrong, and that is presumably because all the arguments used to justify it have proved to be hollow. We know there were no links between Iraq and international terrorism at the time the war started (though there are now). It is now official that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and the idea that the war has made the world a safer place is a sick joke.

Soldiers cannot be above moral considerations. Though the British army scandalously tries to hide this fact, the UN enshrines the right of members of the armed forces to object and opt out of particular wars on political, religious or moral grounds. Before the war started even our own generals were demanding firm commitments from Tony Blair that there was proof that Saddam Hussein was armed and dangerous. They were worried about the legality of the war. The UN resolutions used to justify the war only had force if Iraq was a threat to the world or to the region. We now know there was no evidence for this. So we are faced with a situation where even the UN secretary general, Kofi Annan, has said the war was illegal.

So I am resigning because I don't want to fight a war that is unjustified and illegal. But I also have a deep concern that British soldiers are being used in Iraq. Soldiers from my regiment tell me that much of their work in southern Iraq involves protecting convoys of oil tankers shuttling between Basra and the Kuwaiti border. Their stories have just confirmed my growing cynicism about the motives for the war. It has taken me two years to be able to say it, but I really believe that our foreign policy is being driven by the needs of US power, particularly the need to control the flow of oil.
This is a very bitter thing to say because the troops are suffering. Two close colleagues have suffered permanent injuries in Iraq. Their lives have been shattered and it must be said they have been treated very poorly by the army. Reports suggest that on top of the 80 dead, 7-800 British troops have been seriously wounded. Many more are suffering mental trauma. The experience of the Falklands and the first Gulf war shows that the scars of war run very deep, even among the officially uninjured. I know veterans who struggle daily with post-traumatic stress disorder more than 10 years after seeing active service. The legacy can last a lifetime. It is a scandal that young lives are being lost and ruined just so George Bush can keep control of the oil in the Middle East.

People have said to me that we created this mess, we should sort it out. The Iraqis need many things: they need medical supplies, they need their infrastructure rebuilt, they need jobs. The one thing they don't need is foreign troops on their streets. In fact, it is the presence of US and British troops that is creating the tension and violence, which seems certain to continue regardless of last month's elections. We have become symbols of foreign domination. That is why there is no way we can provide security. Only the Iraqis themselves can do that, and the longer we stay, the more the situation will get out of hand. We must allow the Iraqis to get on with building their own future - even if they make mistakes.

The continuing occupation is a disaster for the people of Iraq and a nightmare for the British and US troops on the front line. I am resigning as a conscientious objector because I don't want any part of it, and also because I hope my action might just encourage other soldiers to speak out or opt out.

- George Solomou is a lance corporal in the Royal Army Medical Corps, attached to the London Irish Rifles. He is a member of Military Families Against the War. This is an edited version of the letter he is submitting to his commanding officer today.
 

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#14
mizkrissi said:
Article in Oracle

Why I Won't Fight in Iraq
Tuesday, February 15, 2005




I am resigning from the Territorial Army ......

- George Solomou is a gobby little walt who is desperately scrabbling for excuses to hide the broad yellow stripe down his back. This is an edited version of one of those excuses.
 
#15
Did this sh1t of man really write this piece? I think not. Its a shame there is no counter letter from his unit to the press assocaiations or nationals rubbishing his claims and showing him for the w@nker he is. anonymously of course.

Stabtastic any takers from the Londons or RAMC(V)?
 
#16
Vonshot said:
Did this sh1t of man really write this piece? I think not. Its a shame there is no counter letter from his unit to the press assocaiations or nationals rubbishing his claims and showing him for the w@nker he is. anonymously of course.

Stabtastic any takers from the Londons or RAMC(V)?

Sorry Das Stab
 
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Vonshot said:
Did this sh1t of man really write this piece? I think not. Its a shame there is no counter letter from his unit to the press assocaiations or nationals rubbishing his claims and showing him for the w@nker he is. anonymously of course.

Stabtastic any takers from the Londons or RAMC(V)?
Not allowed to say much. But I can say he did write it and the Regt should have issued a comment. :evil:
 
#19
hackle said:
source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050215/323/fciou.html

Tuesday February 15, 02:03 PM
Military reservist resigns in protest over Iraq war

LONDON (AFP) - A soldier from Britain's military reserve, the Territorial Army, formally resigned from the force in protest at the "illegal" war in Iraq, and urged fellow troops to do the same.

"There is a sizeable minority within the Territorial Army that do not agree with this war, but many soldiers do not realise they are legally entitled to conscientiously object to serving in a war," he told reporters.
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When does a 'sizeable minority' cease to be a minority and become a majority ?

W***er
 
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I'm not sure where his info came from as it's certainly not from the Londons. There's no 'sizeable majority' of anti's there. I've known 4 people who have disagreed with the war aims, 3 of which went anyway (1 was injured).
 

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