Military Modelling

Kirkz

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Go on have a stab at it, it's not like you have got a lot invested in it.
It's difficult enough trying not to glue my thumb to the back of my dental bridge.
I'd rather the model was somewhere it was appreciated or at the very least used for spares.
I have a house crammed with stuff as it is, I'm surprised I haven't featured on "Hoarding Buried Alive".
 

Smeggers

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It's difficult enough trying not to glue my thumb to the back of my dental bridge.
I'd rather the model was somewhere it was appreciated or at the very least used for spares.
I have a house crammed with stuff as it is, I'm surprised I haven't featured on "Hoarding Buried Alive".
I can agree with that! You should see his vinyl collection or whatever percentage is on the shelves.
 

Cold_Collation

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@Dads203, what's really nice to see is realistic levels of finishing and weathering.

Too many modellers add 'realistic' weld seams that are hopelessly, massively over-scale, for instance. Then they compound matters by adding paint chipping that you just don't see on real vehicles.

The M113, to me, nails it. (Not that the others don't...)
 

Dads203

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@Dads203, what's really nice to see is realistic levels of finishing and weathering.

Too many modellers add 'realistic' weld seams that are hopelessly, massively over-scale, for instance. Then they compound matters by adding paint chipping that you just don't see on real vehicles.

The M113, to me, nails it. (Not that the others don't...)
Cheers fella, I try and keep things like weathering to realistic levels on my builds, some go for the real artistic look and show some amazing talent but it’s just not in keeping with how it would look for real.
A visit to the Telford show and the competition tables highlights some fantastic skills but for the most you would never see some of the builds in the state they are modelled if they were real.
 
Cheers fella, I try and keep things like weathering to realistic levels on my builds, some go for the real artistic look and show some amazing talent but it’s just not in keeping with how it would look for real.
A visit to the Telford show and the competition tables highlights some fantastic skills but for the most you would never see some of the builds in the state they are modelled if they were real.
I’m with you on Telford. I grew up in the 60s/70s and was lucky enough to join a North London war gaming club when I was about 14 run by ‘Bish’ Iwaszko:

Bish Iwaszko

Bish was always banging on about too much weathering, arguing that a lot of kit wouldn’t have survived long enough!
 
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Cold_Collation

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Cheers fella, I try and keep things like weathering to realistic levels on my builds, some go for the real artistic look and show some amazing talent but it’s just not in keeping with how it would look for real.
A visit to the Telford show and the competition tables highlights some fantastic skills but for the most you would never see some of the builds in the state they are modelled if they were real.
Which, to me, negates the effort. If you're trying to reproduce something which actually exists/existed, why the hell make it unrealistic?
 
Just after I left the Regt (2RTR), I attended a few meeting of my Dads modelling Club.
Some of the AFV weathering, was to say the least interesting!
 

Dads203

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One of the flying things that I built a year or so ago, my brother served on 771 NAS so this was done for him. It’s the Airfix crab version converted and super detailed to a HU5.
This build led onto a commission build Which was better, shame I had to hand it over.


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One of the flying things that I built a year or so ago, my brother served on 771 NAS so this was done for him. It’s the Airfix crab version converted and super detailed to a HU5.

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That is very nice, the down draft on the sea is particularly impressive!!
Have you seen the work of the bloke who, puts his maritime models in clear plastic.
For the life of me I can’t remember it’s proper name.
 

Smeggers

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Just to add my twopennorth to the "weathering" debate, I saw several examples of over-weathered and rusty vehicles when Chorley Military model club held a D-Day build. Considering most of the vehicles had only recently come ashore, there were some pretty unrealistic dust stains on vehicles and some horrendous weathering. I would imagine that every division had a full CES check and any sub-standard vehicles were swapped out. I can also imagine that various Regimental Commanders and Badge men wanted their kit in pretty good shape prior to their crossing the channel.Paint jobs would have been pretty immaculate prior to launch and would only have suffered salt spray during the crossing and the occasional scrape or dent. By the end of week one, the paint jobs would still have been pretty good and only basic dirt and debris would have accumulated. There wouldn't have been that much in the way of fading on the paint, especially as the weather wasn't that good.
I also saw some over-enthusiastic rust application on desert vehicles in the El Alamein category. Seriously? I thought everyone was aware that wooden truck sides don't rust!
 

Cold_Collation

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Just to add my twopennorth to the "weathering" debate, I was several examples of over-weathered and rusty vehicles when Chorley Military model club held a D-Day build. Considering most of the vehicles had only recently come ashore, there were some pretty unrealistic dust stains on vehicles and some horrendous weathering. I would imagine that every division had a full CES check and any sub-standard vehicles were swapped out. I can also imagine that various Regimental Commanders and Badge men wanted their kit in pretty good shape prior to their crossing the channel.Paint jobs would have been pretty immaculate prior to launch and would only have suffered salt spray during the crossing and the occasional scrape or dent. By the end of week one, the paint jobs would still have been pretty good and only basic dirt and debris would have accumulated. There wouldn't have been that much in the way of fading on the paint, especially as the weather wasn't that good.
I also saw some over-enthusiastic rust application on desert vehicles in the El Alamein category. Seriously? I thought everyone was aware that wooden truck sides don't rust!
Yes. Someone made that point over on www.missing-lynx.com - Normandy vehicles would have been pretty much pristine, not showing months and months of wear. Some of the Centaur IVs that you see, for instance, look absolutely knackered. Totally misses the point.
 
Just to add my twopennorth to the "weathering" debate, I was several examples of over-weathered and rusty vehicles when Chorley Military model club held a D-Day build. Considering most of the vehicles had only recently come ashore, there were some pr etty unrealistic dust stains on vehicles and some horrendous weathering. I would imagine that every division had a full CES check and any sub-standard vehicles were swapped out. I can also imagine that various Regimental Commanders and Badge men wanted their kit in pretty good shape prior to their crossing the channel.Paint jobs would have been pretty immaculate prior to launch and would only have suffered salt spray during the crossing and the occasional scrape or dent. By the end of week one, the paint jobs would still have been pretty good and only basic dirt and debris would have accumulated. There wouldn't have been that much in the way of fading on the paint, especially as the weather wasn't that good.
I also saw some over-enthusiastic rust application on desert vehicles in the El Alamein category. Seriously? I thought everyone was aware that wooden truck sides don't rust!
Someone I know made a CVRT Scorpion, did a nice job of weathering! Apart from one slight problem and I had to say to him....err you do know a Scorpion is made of Aluminium!
 

Dads203

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I’ve seen the same with the Italeri 1/35 E boats, beautifully weathered with rusty hulls, shame really as they were made of wood. Mind you I had a mate who walted it as an underwater wood welder on the lash, he might know different :-D
 

Dads203

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One more I’ll share with you chaps, Trumpeter T-64, homemade static grass applicator used on the base, great kit to build.

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One more I’ll share with you chaps, Trumpeter T-64, homemade static grass applicator used on the base, great kit to build.

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That's the only view of a T 64 I wanted to see.
As far as weathering goes, I agree about it being overdone. If a real vehicle was as paint chipped and rusty as some modellers insist on, the RSM would throw a track.
 

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