Military Medal Can't find information

oldbaldy

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I'm looking for information on the MM for John Simpson Holborn. I've turned the London Gazette upside down but can't find him.

I have the Medal card for his MSM and also records of the campaign medals awarded in the 2 Boer war.

This is his CWGC entry:

CWGC - JS Holborn

Any ideas?
 
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I see hé was killed when serving with the South African forces on the Western Front. Do they have an equivalent of the National Archive where his service record and/or medal card might be held?

Berlin
 

oldbaldy

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The medal Card for his MSM is on Ancestry so I assume his record for the MM will be somewhere in the UK as well, it would be awarded under the order of the King.
 
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Have you tried his medal index card from the national archives? Saw the following The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Image Details which hopefully is his MM and not the MSM you've already found.

Hell of a nice sounding group. Out of curiosity, what clasps does he have on his QSA for his SAC service?

I checked the Cape GSM roll in case of the possibility of a Bechauanland (or earlier campaign, however unlikely) with no result.
 
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I'm looking for information on the MM for John Simpson Holborn. I've turned the London Gazette upside down but can't find him.

I have the Medal card for his MSM and also records of the campaign medals awarded in the 2 Boer war.

This is his CWGC entry:

CWGC - JS Holborn

Any ideas?
http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/13112/pages/1351/page.pdf

There is a Sergeant J.S Holborn listed here in Edin' Gazette JULY 11, 1917.(First name on the page).

X15 Sjt. J. S. Holborn, Inf.

I presume that it's the same chap.
 

oldbaldy

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Hell of a nice sounding group. Out of curiosity, what clasps does he have on his QSA for his SAC service?
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He has Belmont, Cape Colony, Transvaal and Orange Free State and Date Clasps 1901 & 1902 on his Queens South Africa Medal. Record is marked as him not being entitled to the Kings South Africa Medal.

He was then a Trooper in the South African Constabulary.
 

oldbaldy

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That's the bloke Bokka, I have that card it's his MM that's proving elusive.
 

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That's him, I didn't think of the Edinburgh Gazette but as he was originally from Gourock it would make sense.
The Edin' Gazette is a copy of London Gazette as far as medals are concerned.

However, on this page you can see a lot of corrections where they listed the wrong unit or service number.

Were you related to this guy as he sounds like a bloody good bloke?
 

oldbaldy

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The Edin' Gazette is a copy of London Gazette as far as medals are concerned.

However, on this page you can see a lot of corrections where they listed the wrong unit or service number.

Were you related to this guy as he sounds like a bloody good bloke?
Not me a cousin I'm helping out, her father was named after him. You can understand why.
 

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oldbaldy

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Presumably gallantry MSM's aren't that common? Nice to see the write up on the back of the card.
Yes, I read about the rules for them & basically it was for galantry not in the face of the enemy, sounds similar to the GM/GC.
 
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Yes, I read about the rules for them & basically it was for galantry not in the face of the enemy, sounds similar to the GM/GC.
Thanks for that - makes it an even better group!

With him being 4SAI I checked the Delville Wood roll call but he isn't listed.
 

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Thanks for that - makes it an even better group!

With him being 4SAI I checked the Delville Wood roll call but he isn't listed.
Yes, Just have to see if I can get the citation of his MM now.
 

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