Miliband Tells Obama To Adopt Hearts and Minds Approach

Perhaps Mr. Miliband will get His attention where many of His countrymen have failed.

Back your general and send more troops, David Miliband urges Barack Obama

David Miliband urged President Obama to embrace a renewed “hearts and minds” strategy in Afghanistan as ministers indicated that they would not send more British troops unless the US adopted such an approach.

The Foreign Secretary did not mention America by name but called on every government in the coalition to back troops, aid workers and diplomats in support of a clear plan. “We came into this together. We see it through — together,” he told the Labour conference in Brighton.

His words reflect a growing concern in the Government over Mr Obama’s apparent reluctance to garner political consent for a troop “surge”, which commanders say is needed to build up the Afghan Army and defeat the Taleban insurgency. General Stanley McChrystal, the top commander in Afghanistan, wants a revamped counter-insurgency — more forces on the ground engaging civilians and persuading the Taleban to switch sides — as opposed to a counter-terrorism strategy focused on al-Qaeda — reducing troop numbers and attacking militants mostly with drone missile strikes.

Last night, David Cameron said that that the first thing he would do if elected prime minister would be to form a war cabinet. He said that it would comprise his Foreign Secretary, Chancellor, Defence Secretary, Home Secretary and the heads of the Armed Forces, MI6 and MI5.
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With Washington divided over which approach to take Mr Miliband’s message was unambiguous. “The way to defeat this enemy is to divide it, separate the hard core from the rest,” he said. Abandoning the current mission would turn the clock back to the 1990s “when Afghanistan was a place for al-Qaeda to seduce, groom, train and plan for deadly terrorist missions. With the best of intentions we would be risking the next 9/11 or 7/7”.

His address came as General McChrystal renewed his call for attempts to reintegrate Taleban members into the rest of the population. He said that 50 to 80 per cent of the Taleban would probably stop fighting if they were given jobs.The general is known to have asked for up to 40,000 more troops as part of his recent assessment of the mission. Britain has drawn up plans for an increase of up to 1,000 in troop levels to support the McChrystal plan and Bob Ainsworth, the Defence Secretary, said that there were “difficult decisions” to be taken.

Mr Ainsworth gave himself room for manoeuvre by adding: “We will take those decisions as an alliance, although the UK cannot allow the deployment of its troops to outstrip the supply of equipment which allows them to do their job and minimises the risks that they face. Before I agree to any increase in troop numbers I must be sure that the balance of risk is acceptable by evaluating the capacity of the supply chain to properly equip the increased force.”

British ministers say privately they would be reluctant to increase the military presence if there were a move to a counter-terrorism strategy. “There’s no point in us being in Helmand if that happens,” one senior figure said.

General McChrystal, speaking in London at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said that the campaign had been underresourced in the past. “The situation is serious — and I choose that word very, very carefully. Neither success nor failure can be taken for granted.” Isaf had to show it would support and protect the people. “In the end we don’t win by defeating the Taleban or by a body count but when the Afghans have decided that we have won.” He added that the coalition did not have an infinite amount of time. “These efforts will not remain winnable indefinitely. Public support will not last indefinitely.”
What an intelectual genius that man is!

How did we not realise that before?

Thank God we have such men to direct the operation. Make him the PM right away
labour have lost the right to tell anyone else what to do. They haven't supported the war effort, it's a bit rich to preach to others.
I have had doubts relating to the sanity of this abhorrent miniature squirt.

President Obama must be reeling with anger from this impertinence. When our stupid politicians listen to and act upon the advice of our generals, then maybe, maybe, we would be in a position to preach!

Ainsworth's attempt at listening amounted to: 'When other countries increase troop levels then we may' - initiative, drive and leadership of the highest level.
StickyEnd said:
Miliband=unelected political appointee. :evil:

Obama= elected president. :thumleft:

Why would Obama listen to our shower of shite? I wouldn't!
Obama probably realises that this is political posturing and grandstanding for the home audience. He will understand that stirring speeches need to be made at these home-grown rallies in order to rally the faithful. The real work goes on in the background and in private, public posturing is for the sake of the party.
The more the likes of Miliband and Ainsworth call for troop increases before they'll commit more troops; the more I'm convinced that a secret deal has already been done and this is political posturing so that politicians on both sides can gain the maximum political advantage from it.


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I hope that Obama tells Miliband off like the Russians did.
This one is a Win/Win for Mr Miliband.

If Mr Obama backs the officer whom he put in place to produce a strategy, Mr M looks statesman like.

If Mr Obama rejects General McKyrstal's report or merely continues to vacillate, he can point out that he has read the COMISAF's Initial Assessment and made the Miliband position very clear!

Either way huge browney points and looks good on the CV.

No down side, he probably knows what ARRSE thinks of him already.

I can see it now...

Foreign Sec: Well, mr President, gosh, you know, I think it would be sensible for you to adopt a Hearts and Minds approach.

POTUS: You mean like the one you Brits adopted in Kenya, and approach under which my grandfather was tortured by local security forces because they mistook him for a member of the Mau-Mau?

Foreign Sec: Er... gosh...
Biped said:
I hope that Obama tells Miliband off like the Russians did.

I bet Millipedes ears are still burning after the verbal beasting Lavrov gave him!

:D :D :D :D :D :D
In the name of all that,s Holy, when is the Truant Officer going to drag this little wart back to school where he belongs, instead of letting him mix with the grownups. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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