Miliband denies EU power creep

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The EU Treaty will strengthen, not undermine British foreign policy, the UK's foreign secretary has said.
David Miliband said the EU's role would complement, not rival Nato and denied an EU figure would replace the UK on the UN Security Council.

The Tories said the "creeping powers" on foreign and defence policy would erode the UK's ability "to be masters of our own destiny".

EU parliaments must ratify the treaty - signed by EU leaders last year.

MPs debated implications for foreign, security and defence issues on the fifth day of topic-by-topic debates on the Lisbon Treaty, drawn up to replace the failed EU Constitution
 
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Oh the foreign, foreign secretary has clearly forgotten the "ratchet clause" which enables executive decisions to be made without accountability to national parliaments.

Give us a referendum Milliband or face serious future consequences.
 
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I seem to recall politicians denying that the EEC was the precursor to a European Union.

The project continues.

Believe the complete opposite of anything these corrupt and shameless liars tell you and you wont go far wrong.

Milliband is a prime example of what happens if you don't return asylum seekers to their countries of origin once the danger has passed.

He's more of a danger to the freedom and democracy of our nation than those other second generation immigrants who bomb us.

They are never going to get power to abuse.

Milliband already has it.
 
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CharlieBubbles said:
The EU Treaty will strengthen, not undermine British foreign policy, the UK's foreign secretary has said.
David Miliband said the EU's role would complement, not rival Nato and denied an EU figure would replace the UK on the UN Security Council.

The Tories said the "creeping powers" on foreign and defence policy would erode the UK's ability "to be masters of our own destiny".

EU parliaments must ratify the treaty - signed by EU leaders last year.

MPs debated implications for foreign, security and defence issues on the fifth day of topic-by-topic debates on the Lisbon Treaty, drawn up to replace the failed EU Constitution
That's ok then - the unelected EU parliament must ratify the constit- sorry, treaty. I'm sure they'll have our interests at heart.
 
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Milibrand is a power-crazed creep.

Under the likes of him,Britain moves inexorably into a communist and corrupt dictatorship controlled from Brussels.The Soveitization of Europe with Britain little more than a vassel state obeying orders like a Soviet satellite state during the Cold War.

Of course in a few years time Milibrand will be one of the Soviet commisars in Brussels giving out orders.
 
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The_Cad said:
Oh the foreign, foreign secretary has clearly forgotten the "ratchet clause" which enables executive decisions to be made without accountability to national parliaments.

Give us a referendum Milliband or face serious future consequences.
And to add, many of those decisions are made in secret by unelected people. For example, who voted for Peter Mandleson to be a European rep for this countryWhy does chancellor Merkel and several other European leaders insist that the Lisburn agreement is in fact exactly the same as the Constitution, yet Brown, and the Lib Dems insist its totally different?
 
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The closer we get to an election and a change of government in the UK, the more Liabour will hand over power to the European Soviet Union.

By the time they are thrown out on their ear, the E(S)U will be headed up by Tony Bliar, Cherie will be a senior EU judge and by convention more Commisioner jobs will be handed out to outgoing, failed Liabour politicians.
 
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littlemonster said:
CharlieBubbles said:
The EU Treaty will strengthen, not undermine British foreign policy, the UK's foreign secretary has said.
David Miliband said the EU's role would complement, not rival Nato and denied an EU figure would replace the UK on the UN Security Council.

The Tories said the "creeping powers" on foreign and defence policy would erode the UK's ability "to be masters of our own destiny".

EU parliaments must ratify the treaty - signed by EU leaders last year.

MPs debated implications for foreign, security and defence issues on the fifth day of topic-by-topic debates on the Lisbon Treaty, drawn up to replace the failed EU Constitution
That's ok then - the unelected EU parliament must ratify the constit- sorry, treaty. I'm sure they'll have our interests at heart.
You didn't vote for your MEP?...I know I did for mine. :?
 
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Herrumph said:
The closer we get to an election and a change of government in the UK, the more Liabour will hand over power to the European Soviet Union.

By the time they are thrown out on their ear, the E(S)U will be headed up by Tony Bliar, Cherie will be a senior EU judge and by convention more Commisioner jobs will be handed out to outgoing, failed Liabour politicians.
Comrade, we'll all live in the glorious workers paradise one day.... whether you want it or not.


:p :twisted:
 
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drain_sniffer said:
The_Cad said:
Oh the foreign, foreign secretary has clearly forgotten the "ratchet clause" which enables executive decisions to be made without accountability to national parliaments.

Give us a referendum Milliband or face serious future consequences.
And to add, many of those decisions are made in secret by unelected people. For example, who voted for Peter Mandleson to be a European rep for this countryWhy does chancellor Merkel and several other European leaders insist that the Lisburn agreement is in fact exactly the same as the Constitution, yet Brown, and the Lib Dems insist its totally different?
You forgot to mention Leon Brittan, Chris Patten etc etc etc
 
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You forgot to mention Leon Brittan, Chris Patten etc etc etc
Ah yes the architects of a renegotiated EU rebate......................oh hang on a minute their boss said no. Three times in fact......................No Sven that was the current lot and your ****ing mob looked on approvingly.

Jesus when a Lib Dem cracks on about Europe.................... I hate them almost as much as I hate the incumbents. Get back in your EU cage Sven its feeding time.
 

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Just out of curiosity:

which powers currently held by the UK Govt will be handed over to Brussels?

If the UK is going to be a satellite state of a Soviet style EU, where exectly does the hard power to enforce such a centralised state reside?

The EU parliament may hold very limited executive powers, but it is most definitely elected by their represented constituents. Where does the executive power lie?

Now the UK has lost the rebate, how much, in both real terms, as a percentage of the UK GDP, as a percentage of the entire EU budget, and as a sum per capita does the UK pay.

Do national governments have any line or block vetos over any of the clauses in the new treaty?

Does the very different perceptions of the EU and the political situations in other EU countries influence the way that other national leaders present the new treaty?
 
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Why on earth wouldn't millipede be approving of a United Socialist States of Europe...he's been getting it from Comrade Father and comrade mother all his life, which is admittedly not long. Tell us Millipede, why exactly didn't you attend that repatriation ceremony at Bastion, even though you had bags of time in your schedule? You aren't usually that shy in front of the cameras are you?

Now peg off and make toast for Study 6...
 
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Tazzers said:
You forgot to mention Leon Brittan, Chris Patten etc etc etc
Ah yes the architects of a renegotiated EU rebate......................oh hang on a minute their boss said no. Three times in fact......................No Sven that was the current lot and your * mob looked on approvingly.

Jesus when a Lib Dem cracks on about Europe.................... I hate them almost as much as I hate the incumbents. Get back in your EU cage Sven its feeding time.
Sven likes to ignore inconvenient facts that make him look stupid...it happens quite often
 
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I very much agree with the poster who requested 'sven' to foxtrot oscar with regard to the European Soviet Union.

'Sven's' limp-wrists are the political equivalent of the pimp- not the prostitiute, from whom some satisfaction may be gained, but the pimp - the blood-sucker, the party who is most likely to ensure the survival in POWER of Brown, Straw, Hain, Hewitt, Harman and the other appalling specimens currently destroying this country.

The European Soviet Union will, unless checked, bring what remains of Great Britain to it's knees - make no mistake whatsoever about this - it is almost certainly an unwritten aim of the dishonest, corrupt and wholly insupportable shambles.

The European Soviet Union is:

DISHONEST; DECEITFUL; UNACCOUNTABLE, and INAUDITABLE.

It is a disgrace to a the so-called 'developed world'.
 
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After the Russian revolution the rest of the european countries were supposed to follow suit (according to marx).

When it didn't happen they scratched their heads for a bit until a bloke called Gramsci came along and said Communism couldn't win in Europe because of nationalism and christianity (he probably meant religion but marxists are very literal-minded with their prophets so they just go after Christianity).

He developed "cultural marxism" which ignores the usual economic stuff and aims at working behind the scenes to destroy all traces of national identity and Christianity. They developed political correctness and multi-culturalism to achieve this. Multi-culturalism in particular has worked well because it has a fluffy-bunny exterior to attract liberals who then get drawn into the cult. (And it's exactly like a cult on the inside.)

That's what Zanu Labour is. It's partly what the EU is.

I used to think what happened to the old Labour party was some weird accident through having too many guardian readers join the party. After finding out about Gramsci it all suddenly made sense.
 

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