Michael Yon - yet another top article, US rescue copters.

#1
ClickettySure, UK only gets a passing mention but the blokes he talks about here - PJs - have cojones the size of beachballs.
 

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#2
Great article
 

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#5
Cabana said:
They probably charge the British Government about 10K an hour to fly the ill British soldier out.
You suggesting hes left there?

10k an hours a small price to pay
 
#6
CountryGal said:
Cabana said:
They probably charge the British Government about 10K an hour to fly the ill British soldier out.
You suggesting hes left there?

10k an hours a small price to pay
Far from it. I am just saying that despite this being a US war, the US charge the UK tons of money for anything used, where as we understand that this is a combined effort and as such don't charge for stuff used.
 
#7
Cabana said:
CountryGal said:
Cabana said:
They probably charge the British Government about 10K an hour to fly the ill British soldier out.
You suggesting hes left there?

10k an hours a small price to pay
Far from it. I am just saying that despite this being a US war, the US charge the UK tons of money for anything used, where as we understand that this is a combined effort and as such don't charge for stuff used.
Not without precedent - ow long were we paying back the murkins after WW2?
 
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#8
Cabana said:
CountryGal said:
Cabana said:
They probably charge the British Government about 10K an hour to fly the ill British soldier out.
You suggesting hes left there?

10k an hours a small price to pay
Far from it. I am just saying that despite this being a US war, the US charge the UK tons of money for anything used, where as we understand that this is a combined effort and as such don't charge for stuff used.
Is there evidence to prove that bills are raised against allies in a multinational military operation :?

I may be a bit behind the curve but its a new one on me 8O
 
#9
Good rumour but untrue - we do charge the US for anything we supply them with unless it is not worth raising the bill.

Whatever support we provide them is peanuts to their budget and we end up paying out a lot more because we use their support more.
 
#11
ringdoby said:
Cabana said:
CountryGal said:
Cabana said:
They probably charge the British Government about 10K an hour to fly the ill British soldier out.
You suggesting hes left there?

10k an hours a small price to pay
Far from it. I am just saying that despite this being a US war, the US charge the UK tons of money for anything used, where as we understand that this is a combined effort and as such don't charge for stuff used.
Not without precedent - ow long were we paying back the murkins after WW2?
Well about 10-20 years I believe. The loan that wefinished off paying them for was a post war reconstruction loan. However, circumstances were different. They sold stuff to us during that war which we were paying for at the time until they got into the war. They got into the war due to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour and Germany declaring war on them. They did not get involved in WW2 to help us, the French, Belgiums or whoever and they also came out of the war 2.5 times richer then when they went in.
In this case we have become involved in this war directly to help them and they still want to charge us the earth, which is fine if we charged them in the same way...but we don't.
 
#12
EScotia said:
Cabana said:
CountryGal said:
Cabana said:
They probably charge the British Government about 10K an hour to fly the ill British soldier out.
You suggesting hes left there?

10k an hours a small price to pay
Far from it. I am just saying that despite this being a US war, the US charge the UK tons of money for anything used, where as we understand that this is a combined effort and as such don't charge for stuff used.
Is there evidence to prove that bills are raised against allies in a multinational military operation :?

I may be a bit behind the curve but its a new one on me 8O

Well, the evidence is hearsay and from my experience, however I will say that whilst in Kuwait in Camp Boring, the yanks were charging 58 US$ per man (meal or not) and when a collegue fell ill, they wanted to charge about 10KUS$ per hour to fly him out to Germany or the UK.
Stories I have heard from RAF chaps etc is that they charged about 25K a day for the "loan" of a herc and when they got it back they said that too many miles had been flown and so the British government had to buy it.
 
#13
Herrumph said:
Good rumour but untrue - we do charge the US for anything we supply them with unless it is not worth raising the bill.

Whatever support we provide them is peanuts to their budget and we end up paying out a lot more because we use their support more.
In that case I stand corrected. However, I will say this. We should use their support less, we have the best army in the world, there is no reason to use another nations support units. We just need a government with bollocks enough to provide the right adequate kit for the job and to stop cut backs.


edited because I forgot to write a load of waffle
 
#14
We should use their support less, we have the best army in the world, there is no reason to use another nations support units..

Err, actually, there is.

See if you can guess.
 
#15
Bravo_Bravo said:
We should use their support less, we have the best army in the world, there is no reason to use another nations support units..

Err, actually, there is.

See if you can guess.
Do tell old fruit.

If there is, why do we have medics, teams similar to the one this thread is about, and a whole load of other support units? If we don't have enough, we shouldn't be commiting ourselves to wars we can't handle, but then that is another subject really.
 
#16
If we have the best Army in the world, I presume you think we'd beat the Yanks in a scrap?

I presume your question is a wah; I cannot believe that anyone seriously wonders why on occasion we are helped by our Alies.
 
#18
Bravo_Bravo said:
If we have the best Army in the world, I presume you think we'd beat the Yanks in a scrap?
No, we have the best army, but sadly we don't have the numbers or amount of kit the yanks do. As an example, look at our Navy now, we probably don't even have a 5th of what the US does.


I presume your question is a wah; I cannot believe that anyone seriously wonders why on occasion we are helped by our Alies.
I can understand on occassion, but it is a sad fact that we are starting to rely on them more and more and that is something that must stop.
 
#20
Cabana - Sorry old chap, but, at this point I must publicly rebuke you for your false and misleading statement...that is a kind way for me to call you a bald faced liar.

I just spent 3 years at HQ LAND in Wilton...I know first hand what are the terms and conditions for charges between the two nations, especially in Afghanistan.

Your claim is a lie. The fact of the matter is the US has, on countless occasions granted the UK huge quantities of supplies, mainly ammunition. Not too long ago, we were so short of mg ammo that the US SF teams in Helmand were giving us all they could spare.

What did you hope to gain by slandering our ally in this manner?
 

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