Michael Ryan, Hungerford and 'Them'...

#1
Whilst chatting to a work colleague, the subject of Michael Ryan and the 1987 Hungerford massacre came up.

I happened to mention that a chap that worked with my wife was injured during the shootings, to which he suggested that it was a good job that the SAS finished him off when they did.

On seeing the look of suprise on my face, he suggested it was fairly common knowledge at the time and was shocked that I hadn't heard the rumour before.

I have read a little into the events that took place on the 19 August, and there seems to be a gap of almost five hours between Ryan entering the John O’Gaunt School, and the time of his suicide. Therefore, it is feasible that troops from the CRW wing could have mobilised and travelled the 80 miles from Hereford to Hungerford, and given him the good news.

But how long would it have taken for the relevent authorities to proceed with decisions regarding transfer of power (MACP)? According to the book 'HUNGERFORD - ONE MAN’S MASSACRE' by Jeremy Josephs, "The Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher, holidaying in Cornwall, was kept informed on a special phone line from Downing Street." So, again, it is feasible that the respective decisions could have been made.


Can anyone shed any light on this or is it just another urban myth to be consigned to the 'Bullshit File'?
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
I think he's getting mixed up with Barry Prudom.
He was tracked by Eddie Mcgee ex SAS and killed himself at Malton Golf Club
 
#4
[snip]Can anyone shed any light on this or is it just another urban myth to be consigned to the 'Bullshit File'?
He topped himself. It is pretty much SOP for whackos like him. Read 'Hunting Humans' by Elliot Leyton.

Toole dup he may have been, but he wasn't exactly a one-man Embassy siege, or PIRA Gibraltar bomb team, was he?

I expect your mates think the Hereford Gun Club offed the Whitehaven cabbie who went postal, as well.

Tell them they are knobs, won't you, pretty please.
 
#6
I heard he was topped by SEAL team 6?
 

chrisg46

LE
Book Reviewer
#10
Rumours were that they were in the area and requested permission to intervene, it was denied.

But as I said, rumours.
Hypothetical, supposing some lunatic is running round shooting people, and a military unit is passing by with weapons and ammo. If they intervened without or before police involvement, where would they stand legally? I suppose you could make a case for self defence, but technically, wouldnt thye be using firearms illegally?
 
#12
'Kin ell guys...

What with WTC 7 and now this...

Is there a tinfoil hat festival running somewhere?

Somebody will be saying that Hamilton had an SB tail and was shot by the headmaster next!
 
#13
The Police would do there nut especially if somebody got enthusiastic with an Toy the
police don't get think belt fed or a ugl etc.
But unless it was totally over the top i.e using gmg on speeding motorists (unless in north wales then the police will pay you:))
cps would be leaned on .
 
#14
Hypothetical, supposing some lunatic is running round shooting people, and a military unit is passing by with weapons and ammo. If they intervened without or before police involvement, where would they stand legally? I suppose you could make a case for self defence, but technically, wouldnt thye be using firearms illegally?

Legaly, unless they were being fired upon tis Murder, see Lee Clegg. CPS would have a dickie fit Mp's would go apeshit. lawyers would wet themselves, Police can only shoot pre empitavly (spelling?) with the say so of a very senior officer.
 
#16
I seem to recall reading a book by the RSM of 22 SAS (can't remember the name - sorry), it detailed his career upto the Gulf War 1. There is definitely mention of him passing Hungerford during the incident. He approached the local plod and identified himself and was politely fucked off.
Maybe it's all hidden in the Nemisis files?
 
#17
It's called Eye of the Storm, by Peter Radcliffe. Google is your friend.
 
#19
Legaly, unless they were being fired upon tis Murder, see Lee Clegg. CPS would have a dickie fit Mp's would go apeshit. lawyers would wet themselves, Police can only shoot pre empitavly (spelling?) with the say so of a very senior officer.
I beg to differ, in my newbie humble opinion you can act in self defence (for yourself or a n other), even using a pre-emtive strike if you can justify it, I.e he was pointing the gun at someone but hadn't shot yet.
 
#20
He lost some sort of plot.

He hid in a college classroom.

He shot himself.

The end.

The only soldier involved was off duty, in the area, and carried out first aid whenever he could.

23GN00 you are ronangel and I claim my shiny tinfoil beret.
 

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