Michael Pritchard inquest: Soldier accidentally shot

#5
The sniper said he´d not been trained to fire in the dark,seems a bit daft to assume that all targets will appear at daytime?I was given a stupid order by an officer to fire in NI in 1976,I refused and 4 of our blokes kept breathing,calling him a c*nt in front of the press was not good for promotion!
 
#6
It does seem as if they're scattering the blame around and hoping something will stick. Although I think it's failures in TTP & SA that's being blamed rather than individuals.
 
#7
The sniper said he´d not been trained to fire in the dark,seems a bit daft to assume that all targets will appear at daytime?I was given a stupid order by an officer to fire in NI in 1976,I refused and 4 of our blokes kept breathing,calling him a c*nt in front of the press was not good for promotion!
Also a common theme in these incidents. The pressure to perform, added to a difficult situation and fatigue.
 
#8
Hi this is the modern day British Army, Tom gets stitched for officers oversights, in training and leadership.
Back in the US we usually fragged incompetence, of this sort. It sorted out the men from the boys and reminded Officers to do the job they were paid to do and not act like a potential senior jobs-worth, & knob-eds.
 
#9
Excellent value added 2 years after the event. Have a well done.
 
#10
Hi this is the modern day British Army, Tom gets stitched for officers oversights, in training and leadership.
Back in the US we usually fragged incompetence, of this sort. It sorted out the men from the boys and reminded Officers to do the job they were paid to do and not act like a potential senior jobs-worth, & knob-eds.
You criticise the British Army a lot, yet have no experience of how we operate or conduct ourselves.

I've worked with US forces on many occasions, never once was I filled with confidence.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#13
Surely its mistakenly not accidentally?
 
#14
You criticise the British Army a lot, yet have no experience of how we operate or conduct ourselves.

I've worked with US forces on many occasions, never once was I filled with confidence.
I've worked with the US a few times and to be fair to them, I've found them to be pretty much like us, there are some knobbers, and some who're awesome and a lot in the middle that are OK.

the do have funny accents and get alarmed about people going outside to'share a fag' etc.
None of them appeared to have been fragged by their own men.
 
#15
And just imagine how the bloke that shot him feels. Sadly the potential for things like this to happen will always be present. Night, poor comms, tiredness, itchy triggers, fog of war etc...
 

Gout Man

LE
Book Reviewer
#16
Surely its mistakenly not accidentally?
Perhaps it was mistakenly done by accident?

I was at Thetford once doing a live section attack during the day, a nice sunny day it was too, if that is possible in Thetford, not a cloud in site and visibility was excellent. Any how there I was with the rest of the lads pepper potting I think we called it with 7.62 bits of lead flying around going from trench to trench when I and several others thought that the GPMG fire was getting slightly close for comfort. We all decided to dive for cover and the call went out to cease fire.
The silly idiot on the GPMG thought and this is what he said.. "I THOUGHT THEY WERE MOVING TARGETS"!
I think if memory serves well he wasn't seen near the GIMPY ever again the blind cnut! So I suppose an accidental mistake can happen!
Further more the beers flowed that night I can tell you!
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#17
Perhaps it was mistakenly done by accident?

I was at Thetford once doing a live section attack during the day, a nice sunny day it was too, if that is possible in Thetford, not a cloud in site and visibility was excellent. Any how there I was with the rest of the lads pepper potting I think we called it with 7.62 bits of lead flying around going from trench to trench when I and several others thought that the GPMG fire was getting slightly close for comfort. We all decided to dive for cover and the call went out to cease fire.
The silly idiot on the GPMG thought and this is what he said.. "I THOUGHT THEY WERE MOVING TARGETS"!
I think if memory serves well he wasn't seen near the GIMPY ever again the blind cnut! So I suppose an accidental mistake can happen!
Further more the beers flowed that night I can tell you!
Not really, you either fire deliberately either mistakenly at your own troops or luckily at the enemy or by accident when you dont actually intend the weapon to function as designed!
I've sat through a courts Martial where the difference was made clear!
 

Gout Man

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
Not really, you either fire deliberately either mistakenly at your own troops or luckily at the enemy or by accident when you dont actually intend the weapon to function as designed!
I've sat through a courts Martial where the difference was made clear!
Pardon. You carry on a bit longer and you will end up sounding like Sir Humphrey.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#19
Sorry, deliberately or mistakenly the cause and effect is the same. You pull the trigger and the weapon functions. Accidentally and the weapon goes off either because it malfunctioned or you made an error in handling!
There was this lad who was trying to get off an attempted murder charge by claiming the weapon went off when handled as opposed to he fired deliberately. The weapon on testing was fine so the court had to decide on mishandling/negligence or malice!
 

DaManBugs

LE
Book Reviewer
#20
Hi this is the modern day British Army, Tom gets stitched for officers oversights, in training and leadership.
Back in the US we usually fragged incompetence, of this sort. It sorted out the men from the boys and reminded Officers to do the job they were paid to do and not act like a potential senior jobs-worth, & knob-eds.
Ah, that's good to know. So there'll be no more blue-on-blues, eh. The US - probably the only country in the world to illegally invade another nation (Grenada) and be responsible for ALL the deaths and injuries on BOTH sides.

MsG
 

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