MI5 "overstretched before 7/7".

#1
An inquiry into 7/7 has found that MI5 was overstretched and simply did not have enough manpower to keep the 7/7 Bombers under constant surveillance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8056534.stm

I remember Broon, back when he was Chancellor, claiming he had increased MI5's budget to the extent that they would be able to set up Regional Intelligence Centres in every major city.

Looks like that worked, Gordon... :roll:
 
#2
Werewolf said:
An inquiry into 7/7 has found that MI5 was overstretched and simply did not have enough manpower to keep the 7/7 Bombers under constant surveillance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8056534.stm

I remember Broon, back when he was Chancellor, claiming he had increased MI5's budget to the extent that they would be able to set up Regional Intelligence Centres in every major city.

Looks like that worked, Gordon... :roll:
But they were set up to keep an eye on the hard working sections of society and ensuring that we towed the party line, not to look out for terrorists. 8O
 
#3
Lesleycape said:
Werewolf said:
An inquiry into 7/7 has found that MI5 was overstretched and simply did not have enough manpower to keep the 7/7 Bombers under constant surveillance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8056534.stm

I remember Broon, back when he was Chancellor, claiming he had increased MI5's budget to the extent that they would be able to set up Regional Intelligence Centres in every major city.

Looks like that worked, Gordon... :roll:
But they were set up to keep an eye on the hard working sections of society and ensuring that we towed the party line, not to look out for terrorists. 8O
Report to the QM for an extre-strength Tinfoil Hat! :D
 
#6
Werewolf said:
Lesleycape said:
Werewolf said:
An inquiry into 7/7 has found that MI5 was overstretched and simply did not have enough manpower to keep the 7/7 Bombers under constant surveillance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8056534.stm

I remember Broon, back when he was Chancellor, claiming he had increased MI5's budget to the extent that they would be able to set up Regional Intelligence Centres in every major city.

Looks like that worked, Gordon... :roll:
But they were set up to keep an eye on the hard working sections of society and ensuring that we towed the party line, not to look out for terrorists. 8O


Report to the QM for an extre-strength Tinfoil Hat! :D

Already got it - but I had to sign a 1033 for it! :p
 
#9
JoseyWales said:
Before the link - this is an open source salary payment provided by www.neulairbor.gov.uk;

https://www.mi5careers.gov.uk/job.aspx?jobid=121

Live, or even commute to London and attempt to live on that.
No thanks, mate. :)

I took their on-line tests and scored highly on both of them. But I would have had to make several trips down to the Smoke during the recruitment process. And then move there to work for Box.

As you said, on that salary, it's damn near impossible.

That's another reason the RIC's would be a good idea; recruit people to work in an area they know well. With a salary they can live on.
 
#10
Bottom line, pretty much like the old Cussies and Excise, (now HMRC-same tossres), non-Detectives trying to do a Detectives' job.
Train me up as a VAT Inspector to check on gaming machines, next day let me loose on the Cali Cartel.
Modern day apprenticeships anyone?
 
#11
harrythebastard said:
Bottom line, pretty much like the old Cussies and Excise, (now HMRC-same tossres), non-Detectives trying to do a Detectives' job.
Train me up as a VAT Inspector to check on gaming machines, next day let me loose on the Cali Cartel.
Modern day apprenticeships anyone?
Do you mean SOCA? :wink:
 
#12
Werewolf said:
An inquiry into 7/7 has found that MI5 was overstretched and simply did not have enough manpower to keep the 7/7 Bombers under constant surveillance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8056534.stm

I remember Broon, back when he was Chancellor, claiming he had increased MI5's budget to the extent that they would be able to set up Regional Intelligence Centres in every major city.

Looks like that worked, Gordon... :roll:
I think just about any department of state may pray in aid of the same reason for a failure of performance regardless of the resources allocated to it. It is not a particularly compelling or convincing statement of the truth of anything.

One also has to bear in mind that for the previous two years, at mid March, we got the annual statement from MI5 that the security state has had to be raised to a higher state of alert because there exists 'clear evidence' of an imminent terrorist attack on the UK Mainland. Such pronouncements being made just before the end of the financial year!

It is an intelligence agency within which disinformation is grist for the mill!
 
#13
Iolis said:
Werewolf said:
An inquiry into 7/7 has found that MI5 was overstretched and simply did not have enough manpower to keep the 7/7 Bombers under constant surveillance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8056534.stm

I remember Broon, back when he was Chancellor, claiming he had increased MI5's budget to the extent that they would be able to set up Regional Intelligence Centres in every major city.

Looks like that worked, Gordon... :roll:
I think just about any department of state may pray in aid of the same reason for a failure of performance regardless of the resources allocated to it. It is not a particularly compelling or convincing statement of the truth of anything.

One also has to bear in mind that for the previous two years, at mid March, we got the annual statement from MI5 that the security state has had to be raised to a higher state of alert because there exists 'clear evidence' of an imminent terrorist attack on the UK Mainland. Such pronouncements being made just before the end of the financial year!

It is an intelligence agency within which disinformation is grist for the mill!
Fair point. Also worth remembering that only a couple of weeks before 7/7, MI5 had DOWNGRADED the alert status. Because no attacks were immenent...

Whoops!
 
#15
Iolis said:
Werewolf said:
An inquiry into 7/7 has found that MI5 was overstretched and simply did not have enough manpower to keep the 7/7 Bombers under constant surveillance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8056534.stm

I remember Broon, back when he was Chancellor, claiming he had increased MI5's budget to the extent that they would be able to set up Regional Intelligence Centres in every major city.

Looks like that worked, Gordon... :roll:
I think just about any department of state may pray in aid of the same reason for a failure of performance regardless of the resources allocated to it. It is not a particularly compelling or convincing statement of the truth of anything.

One also has to bear in mind that for the previous two years, at mid March, we got the annual statement from MI5 that the security state has had to be raised to a higher state of alert because there exists 'clear evidence' of an imminent terrorist attack on the UK Mainland. Such pronouncements being made just before the end of the financial year!

It is an intelligence agency within which disinformation is grist for the mill!
Terrorists have no financial year.
 
#16
heidtheba said:
I wouldn't take a pay cut like that to join them.

Even when their online tests say 'go for it'.
It would have been a pay rise for me. But not enough of one to allow me to live in London.
 
#17
Werewolf said:
heidtheba said:
I wouldn't take a pay cut like that to join them.

Even when their online tests say 'go for it'.
It would have been a pay rise for me. But not enough of one to allow me to live in London.
Well over 10K a year for me WW.

But in 5-7 years, who knows :? (I hope not though).
 
#18
heidtheba said:
Werewolf said:
heidtheba said:
I wouldn't take a pay cut like that to join them.

Even when their online tests say 'go for it'.
It would have been a pay rise for me. But not enough of one to allow me to live in London.
Well over 10K a year for me WW.

But in 5-7 years, who knows :? (I hope not though).
I don't blame you, mate; 10 grand a year is way too much to give up. Especially in the present financial climate.

If they ever get the RIC's up and running, I'll apply for Glasgow or Edinburgh. Until then it's just not practical. :roll:
 
#19
Werewolf said:
heidtheba said:
Werewolf said:
heidtheba said:
I wouldn't take a pay cut like that to join them.

Even when their online tests say 'go for it'.
It would have been a pay rise for me. But not enough of one to allow me to live in London.
Well over 10K a year for me WW.

But in 5-7 years, who knows :? (I hope not though).
I don't blame you, mate; 10 grand a year is way too much to give up. Especially in the present financial climate.

If they ever get the RIC's up and running, I'll apply for Glasgow or Edinburgh. Until then it's just not practical. :roll:
Thats not including the LOA and Mrs htb's wage, I'd be fcuked.

I'm looking at Aus to be honest.
 
#20
heidtheba said:
Werewolf said:
heidtheba said:
Werewolf said:
heidtheba said:
I wouldn't take a pay cut like that to join them.

Even when their online tests say 'go for it'.
It would have been a pay rise for me. But not enough of one to allow me to live in London.
Well over 10K a year for me WW.

But in 5-7 years, who knows :? (I hope not though).
I don't blame you, mate; 10 grand a year is way too much to give up. Especially in the present financial climate.

If they ever get the RIC's up and running, I'll apply for Glasgow or Edinburgh. Until then it's just not practical. :roll:
Thats not including the LOA and Mrs htb's wage, I'd be fcuked.

I'm looking at Aus to be honest.
You're not alone; a lot of people are looking at Oz or Canada. Which - and I intend no disrespect to those nations - shows just how much ZANU-Labour has managed to fcuk up THIS country! :x
 

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